https://twitter.com/MuhammadSmiry/status/1522290685910691850
Surely there should be sanctions put on Israeli citizens like they've done on citizens, they should be banned from sporting events and their products should be boycotted in addition no country should be selling them arms to massacre and toture people. They'd wise up very quickly if this was done. Shame of a country
It doesn’t even matter? Israel is engaged in Apartheid and no 6 day or 60000 day war justifies the apartheid. Or are you suggesting that there is a justified implementation of apartheid that exists?
There are British people who've claimed asylum from Britain. You've posted an article from 9 years ago that literally said "a handful"
I was talking about refugee crises. Of which there is none from Israel, but coincidentally, a lot from the surrounding countries. Odd that no boat loads of Israeli Arabs appear (when according to you they have it so bad) but plenty of other Arabs. Hmm a real head scratcher that one.
For some people, I am sure.
So you went from "there's no evidence" - and then when schooled about the historical fact, you say "it doesn't matter"
So let me just get this straight. You're arguing that a war waged by the Arabs which caused the so-called 'occupation', is not relevant?
I mean, it's quite important. If they hadn't waged that war, there would be no 'occupation'
But a more pertinent question is, why did they wage war when there was no 'occupation'? I mean I thought this was all about 'muh occupation'.
It's literally like you saying the Brits were wrong to bomb Germany. I then say...well, they did attempt to invade Britain and made their intentions clear.
And you're like....."it doesn't matter"
lol
I did say irrespective who started it, in my post. You can’t have missed it:
Irrespective of “who started it”
A random lad on the internet, arguing without evidence, suggesting Amnesty Internationals painstakingly detailed reporting on the Apartheid of Israel is “so-called occupation” yeah alright, opinions, everyone has one. I however being a rational adult will go where the evidence leads and that’s to Israel engaging in Apartheid. If you wanna keep defending that because someone something 2000 years etc then more power to you.
No sympathy for terrorists who blow up women and children.
They get away with it, because they and their apologists play the anti-Semite/nazi card, which somehow justifies war crimes 🙄
Yeah it's pretty rare for anti-Israel obsessives to also have dodgy views on Jews.
It's strange, I never really met someone who hates Jews but loves Israel. Almost as if there's a correlation.
Guys a lot of the pro Zionist posters and going to be Hasbara trolls, it's a waste of time debating them. The best thing you can do is sign up with IPSC.ie and get your friends and family into bdsmovement.net.
Ireland is the most pro Palestinian country in Europe and a massive battle ground for Israel, the are very active on Irish sites
https://electronicintifada.net/content/inside-israels-million-dollar-troll-army/27566
Yeah even those Jewish people who are critical of Israel🙄
Why do you think that is? Almost like Israel declared itself the Jewish Nation State but then proceeded to do a bunch of Nazi inspired ideas like Apartheid.
Irrespective of who started WWII......LOL
Yeah, I might not take the word of a far left organisation which literally has anti-semites working for them, gave a speaking tour to a palestinian who posted Nazi-era images on their social media and who said (after releasing a massive Isamophobia report) that they won't be releasing one on antisemitism because "they can't cover everything" LOL
As I said, apartheid has an actual dictionary definition. The dictionary definition doesn't apply to Israel
Apartheid has a historical precedent. We're all familiar with the separate water fountains etc etc. Again, Israel doesn't meet that.
What Amnesty did was over play their hand. Now for uninformed people like you, it was a compelling report because you'd already made up your mind and it affirmed it for you.
For me, with a better knowledge of the situation - the idea that a country with a Muslim Arab on the supreme court, an Arab who runs Israel's largest bank, Arabs in the military, 30% of all doctors being Arab, 50% of all pharmacists in Israel are Arab, there are literal Islamists in Israel's coalition government right now. I just laugh at the idea of this being apartheid.
But the worst thing about people like you an Amnesty, is that you've hijacked South Africans experiences and co-opted it like a costume for the Palestinians. It's grotesque.
That's hilarious. Israelis don't have a clue about Ireland other than St Paddy's day, drinking and leprechauns.
While Israelis are living rent free in the minds of the Irish who long for the days when they had a 'cause', so they co-opted the palestinian one.
I can't emphasise enough how irrelevant you are to everyday Israelis.
Comparing Jews to Nazis. Interesting. You guys are always the same. Just scratch the surface and the ugly truth comes out. Only took a few posts :)
irrespective of who started WW2
Now you’re getting it.
Pearl Harbor didn’t justify or excuse the internment camps of Japanese Americans.
It didn’t justify the nuking of civilians.
These may be an effective means to an end, like Apartheid is a means to an end for Israel but it is indefensible nonetheless.
Lad with opinions and supplies no evidence argues Amnesty International is mistaken on what Apartheid is. Okay then, stay confused mate.
Our heroes the USA seem to love them.
Facts are they get away it because the USA lets them as they do a lot of their dirty work for them in the Middle East which saves the USA face.
They know about Ireland when their hit squads are using forged Irish passports
Steps you can take to support Palestinians:
People compare the Russians to nazis all the time and Israel is far worse no matter which way you look at it.
Although Israel is good mates with the USA so they get a free pass.
Amnesty International is no longer a credible, impartial observer or organisation
Just a few questions for you. First of all let's start with the dictionary definition of apartheid.
An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups. The condition of being separated from others; segregation.
Could you please tell me if any of these following examples are definitionally 'apartheid'
Israel has an Arab supreme court judge. This is the highest court in the land. This man judged that Ex-Israeli PM Olmert should face prison time.
So to clarify, that's an Arab sending a Jewish Prime Minister to prison. Is this apartheid?
This is an Arab who runs Israel's second largest bank chain
https://english.leumi.co.il/Articles/45735/
The bank was founded by Zionists in the early 1900's.
So a large Zionist bank has an Arab controlling it.
This is an Arab Muslim in Israel's government (note that there are 14 Arab members in Israel's parliament)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansour_Abbas
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Now I just want to ask you a simple question. Does this meet the definition above of Apartheid ?
Interesting.
You know your boy Assad, together with Russia, killed more Arabs in a 3 month period that Israel since the 1940s.
What about an Israeli human rights organization? Which declared it Apartheid
'A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid'
https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid
Or Human Rights Watch
'Israel is an apartheid state'
And which credible, impartial observer or organization declared that?
I never knew that Eire was a world power in 1933 or 1945.Who is Europe,who were they in the 1930's and 40's.Is Ireland a world power in 2022? Who's joking who?
It might have been nice if Ireland hadn't refused to take in 200 Jewish orphans. They caved eventually after pressure, but only on the demand that the Jewish kids couldn't gain Irish citizenship.
Perhaps they are referring to the Wests resistance to taking in Jewish refugees during WW2
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Ah ha. 200 orphans is a much smaller number than 6 million though.
There are around 8 million Israeli Jewish people in the US…a seriously high number of people with Israeli heritage…
when Jimmy Carter suggested “ Peace over Apartheid “ he had to apologise….there was uproar.
Of course worth mentioning Carter had business ties in Arabia 😊 and was part of a group called The Elders, I think funded by Richard Branson who get paid to go around the world and in part, give anti-Israel speeches
Worth mentioning that Carter also admitted that he deliberately chose that title to be provocative and didn't mean it in the actual sense of the world.
Also worth mentioning all major European countries rejected Amnesty's report.
What he thinks it is vs. what it actually is
As for Jimmy Carter having “Arab ties” I assume you mean like all US Presidents have represented the official position of the United States to deal with the likes of Saudi Arabia. I can’t imagine he still had any personal ties while in office, he famously had to put his own farm into a blind trust because Republicans insisted that earning money from farming Peanuts made the President corrupt.
But not worth mentioning why? (And can you provide this list of “all major” countries pls)
I assume you mean eg. Germany, and it was For being brutally honest.
Germany doesn’t think Israel will respond well to being called out on it, they’d prefer we sugarcoat everything.
"We reject expressions like apartheid or a one-sided focusing of criticism on Israel"
Quite definitive. Not only do they reject the label, but they accused Amnesty of one-sided criticism too.
So it looks like you're misrepresenting what the Germans said.
France and Britain also rejected it.
Still waiting for an answer here, chief.
Just a question for you. First of all let's start with the dictionary definition of apartheid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaled_Kabub
