It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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Been holding on to them for juuuuust the right amount of time to inflict more damage.
Janey, someone has been quite patient holding onto them.
First photos from Boris' not a party has leaked, 18th Nov 2020 when they had just gone into the strictest lockdown
Queen of a non English speaking country I take it.
And here you are going on and on about it. Plus butthurt. Are you American?
In theory, yes. Less likely to happen with so much fewer MPs and usually much more competition
A significant number of council seats, mostly in Wales, had one candidate and no vote.
As soon as he's gone, the Tories will distance themselves from him and everything stood for in a way we haven't seen with the likes of Cameron and May. We'll hear a lot about 'getting back to basics', 'values' and 'common sense conservativism' things which Johnson is not but he is a good salesman. If he wasn't born wealthy he would have made a good second hand car salesman.
James O'Brien talks about 'contempt for the conmen, compassion for the conned' regarding Brexit. As much as I don't like the DUP, I think it's apt for them. They voted against May's Brexit deal which didn't have a sea border, and helped topple her even though she actually believed in the UK. And they believed Johnson when he promised he'd be their bessie mate and he agreed a Brexit deal which had a sea border and cut them off from Britain.
May was on their side but was a poor salesman. Johnson was not on their side but is an excellent salesman. When he's gone the Tories will have to have a bit of a reckoning and acknowledge that he was a dreadful leader.
But...but...the wOkE LEfTiStS...
Americans on the left created that term and Americans on the right turned it into an insult. Sadly too many people are obsessed with American politics around here.
It's a horse sht term that should never be used in Ireland
I always liked Sajid Javid, but I don't think he's PM material. Doesn't have the stature/presence and seems a bit of a deer in the headlights at times.
I'd go Rees-Mogg. Quintessential British eccentric. He wouldn't be a sleaze merchant. I think he'd be low-key which is good. I don't want a PM or government in my face. Just do your job quietly in the background. Very intelligent, witty and I think he has the presence of a PM.
Plus he'd trigger the left. He bothers them for some reason.
So apart from events and how he handled them. Apart from that Johnson could have been a good PM?
The reality is he has been a terrible PM. Signed a deal that he himself accepts is terrible, agreed to split the UK trading block, which he said no PM could do, lied to the Queen, broke the lW,nord to parliament, one of the highest covid death rates in the world, billions wasted on track n trace, massive unchecked contracts given to Tory donors, 500 seat losses in local elections, massive inflation, rising interest rates, massive cost of living crisis.
But yeah, apart from that he has been great.
Boris is made of super teflon
Leftists created that word unironically back in 2015 or some time around then. I think it might have been the women's march loons or something. There was all sorts of merch made "I'm woke" etc.
Now that people make fun of the pink haired lot about being 'woke', they're now claiming it's a pejorative.
What a detachment from reality.
Who calls themselves woke?
Anyone here describe themselves as woke?
Also, what's any of this got to do with the thread? Aren't there loads of culture wars threads?
I think you've got yourself into a little bind here. Anti-woke is not a pejorative. Woke is the name you gave yourself. I've already explained this to you. Saying you're 'anti' something is not a pejorative. I'm anti-hunting. That's not a pejorative on hunters. Maybe it's my fault. I speak the queen's English and I know you guys have a different take.
Does Godwin have any stats on people who use the term 'buttthurt' outside of the US?
Also, it's just been revealed that you, personally it seems, came up with the term 'woke'. Fair play.
Sad he really doesn't understand pejorative. Godwin pegged him alright
Read the quote again, then look up pejorative in your dictionary. Then, get an adult to explain it to you, maybe Mum when you leave the basement tonight?
I hate to tell you this. The word 'woke' was created by leftists like you. It's literally the word you gave yourselves.
Science checks out.
Boris had one job to do, and that was lean into the anti-woke culture war. This, I believe, is why many voted for him.
This is why liberal left elitist Londoners are voting for champagne socialists and working class are voting for the Tories. Everyone outside of London was sick to the back teeth of the war on culture, the war on basic scientific truths (men are men, women are women) and all the rest of it.
They viewed Boris as a 'tell it how it is' kind of guy. Sadly he got sick with Covid which seemed to really take it out of him. He lost his mojo for a long time and completely missed the BLM riots in England and statues being torn down.
He's tried to claw it back a bit, but the 'scandals' and general flip flopping hasn't helped. Shame really, he could have been a decent PM.
Tories have lost nearly 500 seats across GB. About 340 in England, about 60 in Wales and about 85 in Scotland.
If I were them I'd focus on the England number and saynit wasn't as bad as the left wing media had forecast and labour failed to convince the pu lic to vote for them and so on. Its a bad result though.
Interesting to see what happens next.
Jesus i knew fptp was terrible but this is honestly how they tie break? Is it the same for MPs?
Check some of the worst examples of how undemocratic it is
https://twitter.com/electoralreform/status/1522531687778955264
Someone just got elected because 2 candidates were level so they drew straws.
Democracy for dummies indeed.
Yeah my area is solidly Labour and one Lib Dem in the broader area. The Labour candidate in my local had his margin cut to 200, winning about 1000 votes to about 800 votes for the Lib Dem. So not totally out of touch, but safe enough at the same time.
First past the post is absolute amateur hour. Democracy for Dummies.
One of my old constituencies Lewisham just came back 54 seats 54 Labour.
ah yeah its first past the post, Id forgotten about that. Its always going to depress turnout when people feel their vote doesnt matter
Ya but so many councils are sure bets. All mine were Labour by 30+ majorities and higher turn out would probably not change that. I always votes but never had a council vote that really mattered.
It seems remarkable to me that people are paying £2k a year but then when the council elections come around the turnout isnt that high. You'd think people would be more engaged when they are paying sizeable taxes to their local council.
