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Surely there should be sanctions put on Israeli citizens like they've done on citizens, they should be banned from sporting events and their products should be boycotted in addition no country should be selling them arms to massacre and toture people. They'd wise up very quickly if this was done. Shame of a country
This is an assumption:
You're not interested in peace or resolution of this conflict. You're interested in who is "in the right".
I am interested in peace and who is in the right is very important. A peace were one side continues to suffer, is not a peace. If the Palestinians laid down, Israel would continue to bulldoze over them.
There is no "if" about it.
https://www.btselem.org/topic/administrative_detention
Theres nothing "base" about resisting oppression.
...as indeed they do in the West Bank, aided by a corrupt fatah regime.
I'm surprised this thread has gotten this far with the israeli propaganda legal machine working around the clock.
Remember there is nothing worse than antisemitism. Nothing worse than antisemitism. Nothing worse than antisemitism....
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For example, the Islamist mayor of Umm el-Fahm, the largest predominantly Muslim town in Israel, responded negatively to Sharon’s proposal: “the democracy and justice in Israel is better than the democracy and justice in Arab and Islamic countries.” Ahmad Tibi, a viciously anti-Zionist member of Israel’s parliament, called PA control “a dangerous, antidemocratic suggestion.”
In February 2004, an Arab research center found that Arab respondents preferred by a 10-to-1 ratio to remain Israeli citizens. Two polls in December 2007 agreed on a 4.5-to-1 ratio. A June 2008 poll found that Israeli Arabs preferred Israel to “any other country in the world” by a 3.5-to-1 ratio. A June 2012 poll found a similar ratio to this same question. A January 2015 poll found pride in being Israeli by a 2-to-1 ratio.
The vast majority of Israeli Arabs love freedom. They know they would lose that if they were forced into an Arab state.
Yet the Palestinians living in the occupied territories know no such "freedoms" and Palestinian Israelis suffer rampant discrimination.
Most of the Israeli population are Mizrahi jews of middle eastern descent. Every group without territorial automony in the middle east has been victimized and in many cases been victims of outright genocide up to this very day. So just call it quid pro quo transfer of land between Jews and Arabs.
All the spokes-persons they put forward to the media seem to have being raised in New York...
The largest Jewish community outside of Israel live in New York. And they've likely got a better handle on all the internal politics from the USA viewpoint.
I am aware of that and there is dual-citizenship which i do not understand... as i said earlier... US colony on edge of Europe...
So you want all the settlere kicked out of Canada,USA,Australia,NZ etc and the lands given back to the natives?
Also the vast majority of Arabs in the West Bank,Gaza,Israel are settlers from other Arab countries.
Genetics says otherwise. The idea the Palestinians are somehow the settlers/colonists is a kahanist myth.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/05/000509003653.htm
https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/palestinians-and-jews-share-genetic-roots-1.5411201
Which is bo11ox - it most likely anti-Zionist - but this constant banging of the of the "anti-Semitic" drum is tiresome.
How about the Israeli's stop butchering the natives and stealing their land?
It might be worth noting for some of the very uneducated on here.
Palestinian terrorism pre-dates the so-called 'occupation, pre-dates settlements and pre-dates the state of Israel.
And just like that, we completely blow away the idea that settlements and occupation are the reason why palestinians butcher Israeli civilians in the streets, celebrate in the streets and then pay the terrorist's family a monthly stipend (bonus for killing Jews) by the PA.
Additionally, it's worth noting that the only reason there is a so-called occupation, is because the Arabs tried to carry out a Holocaust of the Jews and failed - much to the disappointment of people in Ireland and in other parts of Europe.
Another thing worth noting.
The Arab Muslims invaded and butchered their way across the Middle East and into North Africa. They continue to this day to carry out wars of land conquest in Africa.
Many peoples were displaced and massacred by Arab Muslims. Only small pockets of Christians, Baha'i, Zoroastrians etc remain. A population small enough that the Arab Muslims tolerate them, only just.
Now Israel is not geographically located in the Arabian peninsula.
Jews, get their name from Judea. This was land that Jews inhabited for thousands of years and governed too. So what we have are Arabs claiming land in Judea.
Israel is the size of Wales, but that's still too much for the Irish and many Europeans to accept. The Arabs must conquer more land, they only have 21 countries you see.
Another massive reason is the infiltration of western democracies
Aljazeera done an undercover expose in the UK & US, Israel managed to stop the US expose getting aired but it got leaked online.
https://electronicintifada.net/content/watch-film-israel-lobby-didnt-want-you-see/25876
And lastly, the so-called 'palestine' is a European colonialist project. Perversely, leftists support this.
Jews were governing themselves in Judea, when the Romans (Europeans) came along and took their land. Whilst many Jews remained, many had to flee for their lives.
The Europeans weren't content yet. They had to erase the Jewish identity and rename the land to Syria-Palestina.
Europeans then spent the next few centuries chasing and massacring the Jews they had scattered from the middle east. All sorts of pogroms and of course ending with the Holocaust. It was about this time that it was popular to tell Jews to "go back to palestine where you belong" - this was common graffiti in the streets of Europe.
So the Jews took the advice of the genocidal Europeans, and did indeed flee to palestine. A British controlled area, not a country.
Europeans were soon yet again displeased with Jews. How dare you create a thriving country in the M.E. Now it's very common to hear snivelling leftists tell Jews they're not natives in the M.E and don't belong.
Jews know what's going on, no matter how much you feign otherwise.
Yes, it's so bad for Israeli Arabs that we see so many of them crossing the oceans on boats just to get to Europe.
Oh wait, we don't. No Arab Israeli flee Israel. There's no Arab refugees from Israel. And they consistently poll at 80%+ that they want to stay in Israel and have no interest in 'palestine'.
More and more are signing up to the IDF voluntarily and are identifying as Israeli-Arabs rather than 'palestinians'
Therefore I would caution you to not label them as palestinian-Israelis, even though it's obvious you want to project your biases onto them. They have largely rejected that title.
Israel steals land and bulldozes homes. Were am I wrong? Saying others were violent too, means nothing.
The aggressors are the terrorists.
Because of people like you.
You are abusing the Jewish faith to further your own agenda. You are inferring all Jews support what the Israeli regime does. You know they do not. Not even all israelis support land stealing and butchery.
I think you missed the part where I said that the 'palestinian' war against Jews began before settlements, before occupation and before the state of Israel.
Meaning that all the excuses people like you give for terrorism i.e ThY'Re UnDeR OcCuPaTiOn - don't hold any water.
This is from a French paper in 1929. You'll note this is before settlements, before occupation, before Israel
My comment stands. Israel is the aggressor today.
I wonder was the papers Jewish owner bias?
Ah, that's okay. I can see what your real motivation is now. I think others will see it too.
Yes, thank you. Israel does not represent the Jewish faith. Have some respect. Calling out the murderous Israeli regime is not antisemitism, give it up.
We have biased newspapers here, don't play naive.
Except everything that you said is without evidence and can be dismissed without evidence.
Irrespective of “who started it” Israel is indeed engaged in apartheid.
Except it's historical fact. The so-called 'occupation' started after the 6-day war. I mean if you don't know that, you shouldn't be involved in this conversation to be honest with you.
Prior to that, Jordan occupied those territories. You can cry apartheid all you want and post far left propaganda, but luckily apartheid has an actual definition and an actual historical precedence. Israel doesn't meet the definition or the precedence.
You're woefully uninformed.
Sophomoric ability to Google demonstrated otherwise…
