Anyone sell calves yet?
I never regret spending money on sheds. You will always put something in to them. 20k sounds cheap enough. Pillars must also be in place. You don't get much for 20k these days.
What would a shed , lets say 45ft long, x 55ft wide x 22ft to the eaves cost????? Anyone know, or who would be good people to price such a shed with?
Would anyone know cost of a completed job, lets say shed as above, with 5ft mass concrete walls on 3 sides, front open, with concrete floor, all in, job done, cost?
Rough stab I'd say 20-25k for shed erected labour all-in, and circa 10-15k for concrete work poured labour all-in
So 40k max would be a rough idea of the price.
And companies you'd recommend for such shed
Would think 55 wide would require heavy steal if clearspan .You would often see 32 wide and I think 40 feet wide is heavier steel so 55 wide could be 12 x 6 inch rsj
See page 38 of last weeks IFJ. A roughly similar sized shed is priced and compared with 2018 prices. Though that one has a slatted tank.
Many sheds cancelled this year so you might get a reasonable quote. didn't hear of steel coming back in price.
oh, so the width effects the size of the rsj?
Interesting , it would be good to know the exact scale of this, how at each point it increases due to width.
Don't see that size shed under 30,000.
Why go 55 clearspan wide.
55' clearance here on 10"×5" girders. Survived 3' of snow on it in 2018 anyhow.
Another ship (Irish Ferries - WB Yeats) that is approved for carrying livestock has entered dry dock for maintenance and the Stena Horizon is still out of commission.
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/another-blow-to-calf-trade-as-second-ferry-enters-dry-dock/
I guess most calves are sold now at this stage. I have about 10 cheques here from my calf crop and they are all small. I'm thinking of donating them to charity and I think I could claim a tax relief on them then.
I bought 3 more calves yesterday even though I hadn’t planned on buying any more but I couldn’t turn these down!
They’re 3 monsters of white head heifers, 8 weeks old on the cards but far bigger than any of the 12 week olds they’re in with. I must weigh them over the next few days but there’s one of them easily near 100kgs. I’d say they came off cows as I’d to train them onto the bucket.
Bought from a dealer for €210 each, if they turn out anywhere near their potential they’ll be some of the best value stock I ever bought I’d say.
How does the tax relief work for a charity donation? Is it all allowed as an expense?
I’d a neighbour only ask me that question during the week as he killed a heifer for hooves4hospice. The factory paid him and he then paid h4h the same amount. They gave him a receipt for the amount he paid as a charitable donation. Can he claim tax relief on the full amount of that now?
It has changed. It the charity claims the tax as far as I know.
That’d be ok too, better than revenue getting it!
Share of fr heifer calves in the mart ranged from 100 to 200, suitable for breeding. V little demand out there.
Why the sudden tail off in demand for fr heifers calves and bulling heifers this year.there was no sign of it last year.is it lads that were thinking of starting have got cold feet and all the lads that are milking these cows are realising its isn't all its cracked up to be.
whatever about heifer calves, cull cows are gone mad, ' the mart today had 580 Kgs 1130 Euros, 625 Kgs 1340 Euros
Good question... I can't understand how people sway so much with their decisions. They couldn't pay enough 12 months ago...
Lads prob have hit max numbers in some places as well. Regs and rhetoric not helping confidence wise either
Local concrete crew had 3 big jobs talking 150k plus of work cancelled by what would be considered strong well established operators as banks didn't sign of on loans, the EU and department of agriculture here seem hellbent on decreasing the dairy herd numbers with rules and regulations, and given where input prices are, I reckon lads are been more cautious and then the above where banks are getting the jitters means expansion can't go ahead where lads are prepared to drive on
peak milk certainly over, but replacements could be in demand again over next few years, with strong milk prices and all the hereford and angus calves. Sticking with dairy breeds here.
You still pay the tax on it
Bank probably did them a favour, Money should not be borrowed for depreciating assets like buildings, machinery etc. If you cant pay for them out of cash flow do without. Borrowing should only be for appreciating assets like land, property, breeding stock.
Any recent calf prices?
Milking parlour including building may cost 250k, for a standard enough setup and prob more now, and you expect everyone to be able to pay for it out of cashflow? A tad unrealistic imo. Borrowing is used in order to manage cashflow, the interest paid is an expense to the business. If managed correctly there should be no issue. There are very few businesses that operate without borrowing.
Now if you are talking about in a personal capacity as in what tondo with your take home income I'd prob agree to an extent
I take it you you've a sizeable sfp coming in to be able to finance all the above without going cap in hand to a financial institution
Its talk like this, that had lads go mad increasing numbers without even a seconds thought about housing them, and people wonder why farming is getting a bad name.
I happened to be at the calf sale in Portumna yesterday eve. A mixed bag as regards both quality and price but I think it’s a buyers market at the minute.
75kg hex heifers, €150, down as a month old but I’d say minimum 2 months old
50-60kg hex €100-€150, decent AAX similar pricing.
Anything under 40-45kgs made very poor money, anything from €10 - €80
Bulls, FRX and AAX with a lot of friesian in them, €10-€70 with the €70 being strong ready for weaning calves.
There was a few reared calves in it, SIM and HEX 90/100kgs+, sold for €270-€300. To my mind they were the best value there, especially with milk gone to €65 a bag now.
