I live in a small Cul de Sac with 9 houses and there's my ID3 and a VW, BMW and Range Rover PHEV.
On my short commute to work I pass a Model 3, three Kona, two eNiro, an ID4 and Ioniq 5 every day.
Most evenings I also pass a EV6 and three different eNiros. About once a week there's a black Taycan parked outside a local insurance broker. There's also a white Model X floating around every now and then.
Oh and one of the local priests have a Zoe.
I live in a small town in Wexford.
The Leaf is not a bad car and it is made by a well established car manufacturer. You’re right about the paintwork, very poor quality.
I see about 10 on the school run alone!
Dublin 11 Area. There’s 2 BEV on my road alone. 2 PHEV and 2 “self charging” hybrids. That’s a road of about 20 houses total!
They are definitely more prominent now than last year alone.
Leaf is a good solid car.
Has its own flaws, particularly with the rigid rear axle and really bad app and infotainment system but it’s a good all rounder.
Tesla M3 is the new 320d or even 520d. They are everywhere you look nowadays. Paint quality and panel alignment seems to be hit and miss. I had a 2014 Model S with alignment gaps that would be noticeable to the genuine car person and I’ve had a 2020 M3 with virtually nothing wrong so it’s really hit and miss with the USA built cars. Nowadays they are built in China and it appears to be substantially better, if not perfect.
When your dealing with the cars daily, as some of the car detailers and PPF guys I know, they can see the difference.
Even the big boys still have issues. Brand new Porsche Taycans had to go back due to alarm sensor failures etc
BMW’s had charging failures on the 30e cars. The i4 plastic body panels are destroyed by cleaning products that don’t effect other cars. Lots of strange bugs in the EV world out there
We are still in the early days of EV relatively speaking and the big guys will have issues too but they will eventually sort themselves out.
I see a lot of EVs but as an early adopter I’ve been subconsciously looking for them over the years, it’s an instinctive call out at this stage. In my estate of 60 there are just two BEVs and both on our driveway…
Saw the EasyGo company car (or one of them) today, a nice Ioniq 5. One lucky employee gets to drive that around
It's nice to see charging providers using more EVs. I see a lot of ESB vans are now electric as well
He's a neighbour of mine!! Gives me a wave every time we pass each other.
See a good few every day here in Sligo, mainly VWs. I was in Hamburg during paddies week and saw very few apart from 2 VW taxis.
Here's a new one on me. Someone on a UK forum got to work to see a birds nest in the charge port compartment of a neighbouring company's van.
How long was the van sitting there plugged in!? I'd hate to see the battery health on they t
There was a parked Leaf 6 months+ chatted about a few years back here somewhere. Battery was grand
Ive seen birds build a nest in a few hours (well at least the starting of one!) So It doesnt have to be there very long.
Has anyone used a VendElectric charger?
They are Rolec chargers, and it looks like VendElectric is their method/app for paying to use Rolec chargers installed at various locations like shops/restaurants etc..
They have a big presence in the U.K. but not so much in Ireland.
Spotted this beauty sitting across the pavement last weekend
Apparently it's okay for some people, just not anyone who wants to charge an EV 😏
It’s a traffic counter (rubber tubing filled with air) and not electrical cabling.
Usually installed by local authorities and likely to be there for 24-48hrs
Does anyone see any value in the current second hand market at all?
I'm not after a leaf or a Zoe but will consider anything else - regular commute 25km each way (no charging), need 100km motorway range to visit parents each month (can granny charge there) but otherwise don't do many long trips at all. Considering second hand i3 or ioniq, can't see the value in spending more than that (high teens €) considering our range requirements and am not keen to buy new, particularly with current delays
All cars are expensive, new or second hand. No different for EVs. That said an i3 94Ah or Ioniq 28kWh will be fine for your use and around the high teens seems decent value compared say a new ID.3. Just looked it up and the base model is a shocking €45k on the road.
I get that but what I mean, the battery size tends to add significantly to the price of an EV and it doesn't seem worthwhile in our useage case to buy a large battery, which we will hardly avail of.
I am happy to spend money but considering the current market, what do people consider best buys?
I see new ioniq 5 is in the low 40k region which almost seems good value although it doesn't have a heat pump and we leave home at 7am
That's not right Unkel. The ID3 DX is €39K. I'd imagine there's delivery charges on top of that as well of about €700.
Surely it's still a trip hazard, which is the main argument against running one of those across the pavement to charge an EV?
@Alkers - heatpump is overrated, particularly in your case if you have a driveway and you can preheat your car for your early morning departure in the cold. Base Ioniq 5 is €39k on the road. Goes to show how manufacturers (except Tesla) are struggling to make a margin here though and trying to squeeze everything out of the customer. Back 5 years ago the original €25k Ioniq did have a heat pump as standard.
@TitianGerm - thanks for clarifying, I take it that's from the mobile site? I was on the full size website yesterday and the price I mentioned was displayed, perhaps they hadn't taken out the subsidy. Which would be silly as it scares people away if they thought a budget cheaply made new electric version of the Golf cost that much!
Under 3 at the bottom it just says price is RRP excluding delivery charge of €1000. No mention of any subsidy and this Life DX model is the only one on the website.
It is a trip hazard and it is treated as such. What is the main differentiator here is the temporary nature of the job as opposed with people running it for charging cables which would be a permanent job. Also this is a singular occurrence on that particular street. Can you imagine on a development with 50 houses everyone would run the "temporary" ramps.
Having said that I'd wish LAs would give up this reactive stance when people ask for permission to install and draw up plans and guidelines of how an installation can be achieved in different scenarios.
perhaps they hadn't taken out the subsidy
Its that ^^
If you delve into the website you will see this...
"The price of €39,285 is based on the ID3. Life DX Pro with the following government incentives applied:
SEAI Grant of up to €5,000
VRT Rebate of up to €2,600 (VRT rebate varies per model based on grant criteria)"
Its stupid to not make it clear that the subsidy isnt deducted in the headline figure. That will for sure frighten people off. Maybe thats what they want at this stage with shortages as they are.
Yes had another look and on a different part of the same page I can see that figure now. Also strange that there is only the base model to choose from, you'd have expected with shortages that they'd prefer to sell the higher end higher margin cars.
Still €40k on the road for a Golf sized car (made with cheaper materials) is pretty insane. A €39k on the road Hyundai Ioniq 5 is cheaper, much bigger and dare I say - better.
DX isn't a base level car though. It's a model they put together with the most popular options on it. The vase car had steel wheels and everything.
The Ioniq 5 is €41K. Due to go up another few K for the 23 model year.
Absolutely, even if the Ionic5 was a few thousand more, it would still be mad to get the ID.3.
When is the Toyota Bz4Xr3i¯úz≈xzfl starting to be delivered here?
It's going to be so much fun using our sub-par public charging network when team toyoda finally jumps on board!!
Surely they'll sell these by the bucketload? Or at least everything they can bring in..
They'll be sooner than expected. Quoted July by our supplier at work (nothing else available in 2022)
I don't know where you're getting the idea that our public charging network is sub par.
It's totally fine for all our needs until 2025. Move along, nothing to see here.
