I see Mary Lou is joining the compo culture brigade with a defamation lawsuit against RTE.
We knew the detail ffs of that other case.
I get it Donald you want to selectively deny the right of redress by announcing a verdict before we have any substantive detail.
Please don’t try to discuss other cases as I have just got an off topic warning and won’t be replying
MB didn't make it to the courts, yet you are happy to judge her (I'm happy to do that too.... would just be nice to have a bit of consistency from yourself Francie)
She filed her case (Same as MLMD has) but it was withdrawn before it was heard
The previous cases involving SF that we know the detail of.
Do you support the outcomes?
Well then, shouldn’t democrats wait until it gets to court before deciding
You guys want it every which way and will trample all over rights you will defend for others.
Predictable.
You and Francie are the only ones mentioning teams.
The rest of us are talking about Mary-Lou's disgraceful attempts to silence free speech in the media, while to deflect, you talk about other posters.
Great news, those like Mary-Lou who repeatedly attempt to bully the media need to be confronted.
Mairia Cahill's take on it in today's Irish Independent is well worth a read.
You can't assume that, that is in your own head, a creation of your imagination, all part of a desperate deflection attempt.
What is clear though, is that you have zero problem with politicians and political leaders using SLAPPs to silence critics. You have welcomed that potential outcome.
Seems if you throw a nick name you get warned here.
Ok, so let's do it very very carefully.
Ms Mc Donald of sinn fein will have a fight on her hands with her defamation case as rte are not rolling over to her demands
Ms. Mc Donald of sinn fein has failed to have rte take down the broadcast she is complaining about.
It now seems that Ms. Mc Donald of sinn fein who is suing rte will have to go to court and have her grievances heard there.
I've listened to the broadcast and cannot find anything defamatory or untrue in any aspect.
What about Matt Carthy? Most cases don't go to court. The Cork SF TD was said to have gotten more than 150k and he didn't go to court.
Anyway, we have your answer - You'd have supported MB if she had persisted with her claim and gotten either a payout or an apology from the hotel. Given that she likely would have, we'll put you down as "Team MB"
Remember RTE being forced to include MLMD in the debates in run up to election? Farce of an organization really when you think of it. Great to see them being taken to task with the vendetta against ML.
Anyone comparing MLMD to Putin.
Answered this for you the other day. Everyone has the right to sue or claim.
If/when we get the details about MLMD we can discuss it.
You ain't pointing out ****. You are trying to create perceived inconsistencies.
Harris and Varadkar have every right to sue. We know they didn't in the end. We can discuss why. That doesn't take away their right.
We have people here comparing MLMD to Putin and MB because she is suing. Vastly different my friend.
When we know the details we can comment on the case. Attacking her because she brought the case is a desperate attempt to try create some kind of scaremongering fantasy. Its highly embarrassing for those people.
Rte have had serious allegations made of SF Td's that they had to later retract and in some instances pay out because of these accusations. My question would be why is RTE so sloppy with reporting? Is it because the public purse is there to fund any defamatory remarks made? Also the fact that they apologized to pascal Donohue for a factual item on a historical policy of FG tells you just how biased and captured they are by the Government parties. It's gone the way of RT.
Plenty of ‘spurious’ cases make it to court.
A case not making it to court doesn’t mean it was ‘spurious’.
As a democrat, if it was examined by a court I would have to accept it. I might not like it but accept it I would.
It never got to court. If MLMD’s is similarly spurious it won’t get to a court either.
The question you asked was answered in the post you were replying to:
I would not support MLMD even if she gets a payout. Nor would I have supported MB had she received a payout - which she likely would have had she proceeded (especially had she not become a public figure in the meantime)
So I'll turn it back to you again, would you have supported MB if she had bulldozed through with her case and got a payout - either in court or in a settlement.
Who says she is looking for a ‘payout’?
She may, like Carthy, be looking for a retraction or an apology.
If she was defamed and a court finds in her favour, will you support that?
Everyone has a right to access the Courts for any reason.
MLMD has a right to access the courts. MB had a right to access the courts. I think that MLMD's act in accessing the Court has the knock on effect of potentially silencing, or at least intimidating, the national media whose job it is to hold her and others to account. MB at least had an identifiable cause for her tort - she did suffer some form of injury when she fell off a swing on a premises. MLMD doesn't appear to have an identifiable cause so it makes her action seem even more tenuous. I think that MB was wrong to do what she did. I think that what MLMD is doing is even more wrong.
Summary: I would not have supported MB in proceeding with her case, even if she got a payout. I similarly don't support MLMD - even if she gets a payout.
You appear to support MLMD in proceeding to try to get a payout Francie. Can we take it you would have similarly supported MB to proceed to a payout?
Francie regularly denies he’s a SF supporter but they are the only party he posts in support of here.
This article (paywalled) indicates that RTE still has the interview up which signals its intention to fight the case
Francie is a supporter of a person’s right to redress. Pertinent question is…are you guys?
Sam, all those cases have been mentioned on the thread. 😁😁
Yes. I suspect Francie has accidentally ‘let the cat out of the bag’ on the outcome that Mary Lou is expecting with this case.
Shut down all forms of criticism of SF. Scare the media and online discussion into silence.
You'll be accused of shilling for Dinny now because you mentioned him
What lie is MLMCD alleging? Seems her case is Brid Smith being asked why Mary Lou was invited to that womens council event when other opposition politicians weren’t given that Sinn Fein had a questionable attitude to dealing with allegations of sex abuse by some of their members.
Francie obviously is a supporter of the Dennis O Brien approach of suppressing the media by hitting them with law suits.
On a thread specifically about Mary Lou’s case? Pull the other one Francie.
Who is "shilling anything"?
Maria Bailey was a chancer who tried to get a payout for injuries alleged to have suffered (I don't think anyone cast doubt on the fact that she did fall off a swing in a premises). I can happily criticize her all day even though she was fully entitled to access the courts. And she probably would have gotten a payout had she not subsequently become a TD an been subject to public scrutiny. If you "Brucie Bonus" come on here to say that someone else is correct to similarly access the courts, even though nobody can identify the damage, and is entitled to get as much as she can out if it, well then I can ask you whether you would have a consistent view in relation to MB for example.
In order to deflect from that, you will say I'm shilling for MB 🙄 . I'm merely pointing out your inconsistencies.
On one hand you will happily criticise someone for apparently threatening to sue a minor independent private publication (I don't know if anyone actually reads it), yet you happily support someone else actually filing a case (not just threatening, but filing the case) against the national public broadcaster.
Poor Sam’ caught out making assumptions tries a bit of insinuation himself. I never mentioned MLMD’s case in that post
You claim not to know what the case is about, then make some ridiculous claims about the outcome of a case you claim to know nothing about that hasn’t happened yet.
Something doesn’t add up with that post.
You have it arseways. He's pointing out the hypocrisy of some. When one team is threatening to sue 'to silence the media', that's perfectly acceptable. When they back out before losing, they are being nice. When its MLMD she's Putin. Laughable really. Thankfully nobody buys it, not even the lads shilling it.
No Sam’ that references the lies and insinuations O’Snodaigh, Matt Carthy and Ó’Laoghaire sought and won redress for.
You gonna stand over those lies and insinuations?
Tough one to answer isn’t it? Blanch ran from it too.
