I see Mary Lou is joining the compo culture brigade with a defamation lawsuit against RTE.
Nobody is saying that Mary-Lou couldn't bring a defamation case. However, what is being said, that, as is happening in this particular case, defamation law should not be used to censor the media and silence scrutiny of the actions of politicians and political parties.
The problem of such cases is such that the EU is moving to prevent the likes of Mary-Lou abusing the courts.
Rte are a terribly biased organisation. Rte make audience members masks in the late late show yet no one else has to. The same org that was having parties during restrictions.
Rte know who their paymasters are.
Nope blanch, last sentence is support for those sick of being lied about. Typical you would support it.
Censor political opposition to Sinn Fein, that is what these SLAPPs legal actions are all about. We are not fooled.
No other party is lied about so blatantly. Unless you are willing to stand over the lies these people told and paid a price for.. Are you? Go through the list tell us which comment was true and you can stand over?
No other party attempts to silence the media through the abuse of SLAPPs.
You blew it again blanch. It is clear you support lies if it's against your nemesis and the denial of the right to redress for some.
oh so predictable
This isn't about me, Francie, despite your desperate attempts to make it so as part of your deflection.
Sinn Fein and Mary-Lou are engaged in a Trumpian, Putin-esque attempt to silence the free media in Ireland through the use of SLAPPs. Nothing you have posted even starts to address this point, in fact you have welcomed it, hoping that it will silence the critics. It is a whole heap of whataboutery and deflection.
So we can assume you stand over the right to lie and insinuate. No surprise from somebody who convicts on foot of allegations with no evidence.
Don't be getting huffy about making it 'about you' either. Read some of your recent posts about me, and stop the victimhood.
Give over ffs.
Putin was everyone's pal when there were properties to invest in In Russia or oligarch money to launder.
She's suing RTE not poisoning detractors. Come back to reality.
If someone broadcasts or publishes a lie about you and they get told they can't do that and fined, yeah its censorship I suppose.
The rest of your upset is obsessive conspiracy theory.
Have you read any of the abuse the Village and Chay Bowes get? Do you give a fiddlers?
MLMD sues RTE, its the end of life as we know it. Meanwhile we're a senior TD under criminal investigation, two more put in frivolous compo claims, another that made up an envoy job and another glassed a critic in the face, all hand waved away. But MLMD is suing RTE...oh nos...
Maybe if they had full face masks covering everything except the mouth (and eyes) then if would be better?
Yesterday you didn’t even know what the case is about. Now you seem to know all about it.
Have you been speaking to Mary Lou in the meantime?
I know what is in the public realm Sam and nothing more.
So all of this from the post I quoted is tripe then:
”No longer willing to take the snide comments and insinuations favoured by many here and in the media, and highlighting the utterly vacuous need to try and implicate people who were, in some cases, not even born or very young children during a conflict/war that is long over.”
Thanks for clarifying.
No Sam’ that references the lies and insinuations O’Snodaigh, Matt Carthy and Ó’Laoghaire sought and won redress for.
You gonna stand over those lies and insinuations?
Tough one to answer isn’t it? Blanch ran from it too.
You have it arseways. He's pointing out the hypocrisy of some. When one team is threatening to sue 'to silence the media', that's perfectly acceptable. When they back out before losing, they are being nice. When its MLMD she's Putin. Laughable really. Thankfully nobody buys it, not even the lads shilling it.
You claim not to know what the case is about, then make some ridiculous claims about the outcome of a case you claim to know nothing about that hasn’t happened yet.
Something doesn’t add up with that post.
Poor Sam’ caught out making assumptions tries a bit of insinuation himself. I never mentioned MLMD’s case in that post
Who is "shilling anything"?
Maria Bailey was a chancer who tried to get a payout for injuries alleged to have suffered (I don't think anyone cast doubt on the fact that she did fall off a swing in a premises). I can happily criticize her all day even though she was fully entitled to access the courts. And she probably would have gotten a payout had she not subsequently become a TD an been subject to public scrutiny. If you "Brucie Bonus" come on here to say that someone else is correct to similarly access the courts, even though nobody can identify the damage, and is entitled to get as much as she can out if it, well then I can ask you whether you would have a consistent view in relation to MB for example.
In order to deflect from that, you will say I'm shilling for MB 🙄 . I'm merely pointing out your inconsistencies.
On one hand you will happily criticise someone for apparently threatening to sue a minor independent private publication (I don't know if anyone actually reads it), yet you happily support someone else actually filing a case (not just threatening, but filing the case) against the national public broadcaster.
On a thread specifically about Mary Lou’s case? Pull the other one Francie.
What lie is MLMCD alleging? Seems her case is Brid Smith being asked why Mary Lou was invited to that womens council event when other opposition politicians weren’t given that Sinn Fein had a questionable attitude to dealing with allegations of sex abuse by some of their members.
Francie obviously is a supporter of the Dennis O Brien approach of suppressing the media by hitting them with law suits.
You'll be accused of shilling for Dinny now because you mentioned him
Yes. I suspect Francie has accidentally ‘let the cat out of the bag’ on the outcome that Mary Lou is expecting with this case.
Shut down all forms of criticism of SF. Scare the media and online discussion into silence.
Sam, all those cases have been mentioned on the thread. 😁😁
Francie is a supporter of a person’s right to redress. Pertinent question is…are you guys?
This article (paywalled) indicates that RTE still has the interview up which signals its intention to fight the case
Francie regularly denies he’s a SF supporter but they are the only party he posts in support of here.
Everyone has a right to access the Courts for any reason.
MLMD has a right to access the courts. MB had a right to access the courts. I think that MLMD's act in accessing the Court has the knock on effect of potentially silencing, or at least intimidating, the national media whose job it is to hold her and others to account. MB at least had an identifiable cause for her tort - she did suffer some form of injury when she fell off a swing on a premises. MLMD doesn't appear to have an identifiable cause so it makes her action seem even more tenuous. I think that MB was wrong to do what she did. I think that what MLMD is doing is even more wrong.
Summary: I would not have supported MB in proceeding with her case, even if she got a payout. I similarly don't support MLMD - even if she gets a payout.
You appear to support MLMD in proceeding to try to get a payout Francie. Can we take it you would have similarly supported MB to proceed to a payout?
Who says she is looking for a ‘payout’?
She may, like Carthy, be looking for a retraction or an apology.
If she was defamed and a court finds in her favour, will you support that?
The question you asked was answered in the post you were replying to:
I would not support MLMD even if she gets a payout. Nor would I have supported MB had she received a payout - which she likely would have had she proceeded (especially had she not become a public figure in the meantime)
So I'll turn it back to you again, would you have supported MB if she had bulldozed through with her case and got a payout - either in court or in a settlement.
