I see Mary Lou is joining the compo culture brigade with a defamation lawsuit against RTE.
So all of this from the post I quoted is tripe then:
”No longer willing to take the snide comments and insinuations favoured by many here and in the media, and highlighting the utterly vacuous need to try and implicate people who were, in some cases, not even born or very young children during a conflict/war that is long over.”
Thanks for clarifying.
I know what is in the public realm Sam and nothing more.
Yesterday you didn’t even know what the case is about. Now you seem to know all about it.
Have you been speaking to Mary Lou in the meantime?
Maybe if they had full face masks covering everything except the mouth (and eyes) then if would be better?
Give over ffs.
Putin was everyone's pal when there were properties to invest in In Russia or oligarch money to launder.
She's suing RTE not poisoning detractors. Come back to reality.
If someone broadcasts or publishes a lie about you and they get told they can't do that and fined, yeah its censorship I suppose.
The rest of your upset is obsessive conspiracy theory.
Have you read any of the abuse the Village and Chay Bowes get? Do you give a fiddlers?
MLMD sues RTE, its the end of life as we know it. Meanwhile we're a senior TD under criminal investigation, two more put in frivolous compo claims, another that made up an envoy job and another glassed a critic in the face, all hand waved away. But MLMD is suing RTE...oh nos...
So we can assume you stand over the right to lie and insinuate. No surprise from somebody who convicts on foot of allegations with no evidence.
Don't be getting huffy about making it 'about you' either. Read some of your recent posts about me, and stop the victimhood.
This isn't about me, Francie, despite your desperate attempts to make it so as part of your deflection.
Sinn Fein and Mary-Lou are engaged in a Trumpian, Putin-esque attempt to silence the free media in Ireland through the use of SLAPPs. Nothing you have posted even starts to address this point, in fact you have welcomed it, hoping that it will silence the critics. It is a whole heap of whataboutery and deflection.
You blew it again blanch. It is clear you support lies if it's against your nemesis and the denial of the right to redress for some.
oh so predictable
No other party attempts to silence the media through the abuse of SLAPPs.
No other party is lied about so blatantly. Unless you are willing to stand over the lies these people told and paid a price for.. Are you? Go through the list tell us which comment was true and you can stand over?
Censor political opposition to Sinn Fein, that is what these SLAPPs legal actions are all about. We are not fooled.
Nope blanch, last sentence is support for those sick of being lied about. Typical you would support it.
Rte are a terribly biased organisation. Rte make audience members masks in the late late show yet no one else has to. The same org that was having parties during restrictions.
Rte know who their paymasters are.
Nobody is saying that Mary-Lou couldn't bring a defamation case. However, what is being said, that, as is happening in this particular case, defamation law should not be used to censor the media and silence scrutiny of the actions of politicians and political parties.
The problem of such cases is such that the EU is moving to prevent the likes of Mary-Lou abusing the courts.
Well, Francie, in scouring my posts for such evidence, did it ever occur to you that what we are facing from Mary-Lou and Sinn Fein is unprecedented in Irish politics. Continuous attacks on the free press from a political party and its leader are unknown in Ireland. How may lawsuits does the Sunday Times report on from SF figures today? Was it as much as ten?
You will find posts from me condemning the likes of Trump and Putin (remember him, an old favourite of Sinn Fein) who are the type of international politicians who engage in similar activity. So, over to you, perhaps you can produce evidence of any other political party engage in such a sustained and sinister attack on free media in Ireland, with the number of legal actions running into double figures over a short period of time.
When the mask slips, the real agenda is revealed.
Silencing the opposition to Sinn Fein is the goal of these SLAPPs actions. The last sentence of this post makes it clear that there are some on these boards who support the attempt to censor free speech.
I think it is part and parcel of the status now achieved in Ireland.
No longer willing to take the snide comments and insinuations favoured by many here and in the media, and highlighting the utterly vacuous need to try and implicate people who were, in some cases, not even born or very young children during a conflict/war that is long over.
A few cases like this and maybe the desperate and biased might watch their tongues.
It's inevitable that those that are defamed by politically motivated journalist were going to challenge those defaming them. I think the weaponisation if Irish media is more evident than even since the last election with more and more journalist moving to advisory positions with FFG. Journalist rewarded for attacking opposition parties and TD's https://www.businesspost.ie/more-politics/growing-number-of-journalists-jump-ship-to-take-fg-adviser-jobs-0f8e2640
It is undeniably clear that Sf uses the Moscow motto when it comes to the media. Unless its all pro-Sf then it must be suppressed and denied till the kingdom come.
Showing what happens normally is off topic. Ok, have it your own way.
An off topic ‘answer’ that was a poor attempt at deflection.
You got your answer. Deal with it.
If you compare it (perish the thought we would do that!!) to other cases it is normal, nothing strange about it, unless you have the shinners under the bed or renting headspace.
Just analysing what you were saying there Astro.
There is a Shinner on the radio at the minute. Kinda blows your theory out the window if one analyses it some more.
The 'media' concerned here is doing what MLMD is doing, i.e. not discussing it publicly. Which is normal and correct.
I didn’t ask about ‘Maria Bailey’. I asked about this case.
Apparently Sinn Fein ‘sources’ don’t even know what is going on.
Strange.
Wow, a lot to unpack there.
So you've admitted no one else doing it and this is now a pattern from SF, but "nothing to see here" (literally).
I am saying that they'll have to legitimately reduce coverage for MLM and SF due to ongoing litigation, if anything, they have been over-represented in the media thus far (albeit more negative than positive coverage, so maybe this is a win there along with their archive "tidy up").
We can start breaking the media down if you wish, I'm using it as shorthand in this case, but have at it (or will this be another "I can't be bothered to do that work for the thing I want others to do" case?).
And in classic fashion, whataboutery about whataboutery!
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What secrecy?
We know MLMD has filed a claim.
It's no different to other litigations.
Take Maria Bailey.
She fell in 2015. She filed a claim for compensation.
However, we the public did not know the details of the claim until both sides - Bailey and the Hotel, filed papers in 2019.
Why all the secrecy?
Who is hiding?
Like the details of any litigation, you are not 'entitled' to know them. They will come out in due course in the court of law.
Mods have intervened in a thread here (correctly) to warn people not to say that somebody is a criminal. There is a reason for that. Once a case begins the dangers of compromising it are there.
I suspect that MLMD knows that there is not the same regard for rights or a case when it comes to a Shinner from media, social media or internet boards and will stay quiet on the details.
Feck sake, the jury has already decided here. 😁
Of course they should but if they're defamed,they should be open about what it is that defamed them
Hiding it from scrutiny even littles the case that they were defamed
Ergo it should be open
Otherwise the priority is not to clear their name but to intimidate questioners
Only some have a right to redress it seems Fandy. Best answer I can get here.
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