I see Mary Lou is joining the compo culture brigade with a defamation lawsuit against RTE.
This should be fun😁
What question is she sueing em over?
Nothing snide in the truth.
Why did you say I brought MB into it when I didn't.
Why did you say SF are taking the case when they plainly aren't?
Why did you try to make something of how the story reached the media when you didn't know what you were talking about?
Surely after one or two wins vs SF you’d have a case for harassment against them if they kept suing you. Easy win for a journo.
Now Francie that you have dug a hole halfway to Australia or nailed yourself to a cross on the basis that everything is ok because nobody knows what the litigation is in relation to, it is time to give you a cold touch of reality. What you are missing in your desperate attempts to defend Sinn Fein and Mary-Lou at every turn is that that is the exact reason for a SLAPPS - hiding the information from the public.
Mary-Lou knows what she is suing for, so do RTE, but the public doesn't know. Complete success for Mary-Lou in her SLAPPS action. I am also pretty sure that every other media outlet has got a solicitor's letter telling them not to mention the reason for the litigation or they will be sued as well. Slam-dunk for Mary-Lou in censoring free speech and threatening democracy. Whatever the subject of the litigation, no media outlet will go near it for fear of similar action. A dark day for democracy.
That is what you are defending, and what is worse, you have built your whole defence around the very reason that a SLAPPS is taken - nobody knows exactly what it is about (apart from Mary-Lou and the media). I have let you hang yourself on this until you have dug yourself so far into the hole that there is no coming back.
The only honorable thing that Mary-Lou can do at this stage is come clean on what exactly the case is about. Otherwise she, supported by you, is threatening our democracy.
The mere fact that no one has much of a clue about her complaint is a demonstration of success for Sinn Fein in censoring free speech and damaging democracy. RTE know and they will refrain from questioning her in that way until a court case, which will not happen as Sinn Fein and Mary-Lou will delay it at every turn.
The issue is that free speech is curtailed because RTE and other media outlets know the reason for the litigation and will not touch the subject while the case is ongoing. The public don't know the reason, and democracy is damaged.
Melodrama much?
’a dark day for democracy’ is a nice touch.
You are in a hole on this one so deep nobody can see that far down.
If even Francie Brady doesn't know why Mary-Lou is suing RTE, then it has been the most successful SLAPPS exercise ever.
Japers. The claim was it was a SF claim. Francie showed SF weren't privy to the details. You read that as proof they are censoring free speech? To quote a dear friend, 'wow, just wow'.
Seems to me some poster has gotten rid of the presumption of innocence at the core of our democracy. Sinister.
About now somebody would row in with the deep hate and obsession about MLMD and posting a lot in the thread and mysogny shyte. But its the wrong party.
Help me out here, I am trying to find your concern when other politicians threatened the media with action blanch.
There would be posts about 'dark days' from you and the lads surely?
Interesting whataboutism, is there another TD currently engaged in a process like this?
It does seem to have been a bit of a sideshow bob style rake in the face for MLM.
Now everyone can speculate on why she is suing and dig up anything they want. The media can also legitimately reduce coverage on SF or not send out invites to debates due to ongoing legal action and the SF followers have no pearl clutching recourse anymore.
Well he is so she will win ha ha
I was looking for past pearl clutching 'dark days for democracy' fretting Astro. Still coming up short.
'legitimately reduce coverage'? That is quite illuminating, do you mean that they want to do this but up to now have only had illegitimate ways to do it?
Why are you talking about the 'media' as some kind of homogenous entity BTW?
Well that’s a load of bollix. Should no one be able to bring defamation cases against the media?
Only some have a right to redress it seems Fandy. Best answer I can get here.
Of course they should but if they're defamed,they should be open about what it is that defamed them
Hiding it from scrutiny even littles the case that they were defamed
Ergo it should be open
Otherwise the priority is not to clear their name but to intimidate questioners
Who is hiding?
Like the details of any litigation, you are not 'entitled' to know them. They will come out in due course in the court of law.
Mods have intervened in a thread here (correctly) to warn people not to say that somebody is a criminal. There is a reason for that. Once a case begins the dangers of compromising it are there.
I suspect that MLMD knows that there is not the same regard for rights or a case when it comes to a Shinner from media, social media or internet boards and will stay quiet on the details.
Feck sake, the jury has already decided here. 😁
Why all the secrecy?
What secrecy?
We know MLMD has filed a claim.
It's no different to other litigations.
Take Maria Bailey.
She fell in 2015. She filed a claim for compensation.
However, we the public did not know the details of the claim until both sides - Bailey and the Hotel, filed papers in 2019.
Wow, a lot to unpack there.
So you've admitted no one else doing it and this is now a pattern from SF, but "nothing to see here" (literally).
I am saying that they'll have to legitimately reduce coverage for MLM and SF due to ongoing litigation, if anything, they have been over-represented in the media thus far (albeit more negative than positive coverage, so maybe this is a win there along with their archive "tidy up").
We can start breaking the media down if you wish, I'm using it as shorthand in this case, but have at it (or will this be another "I can't be bothered to do that work for the thing I want others to do" case?).
And in classic fashion, whataboutery about whataboutery!
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I didn’t ask about ‘Maria Bailey’. I asked about this case.
Apparently Sinn Fein ‘sources’ don’t even know what is going on.
Strange.
Just analysing what you were saying there Astro.
There is a Shinner on the radio at the minute. Kinda blows your theory out the window if one analyses it some more.
The 'media' concerned here is doing what MLMD is doing, i.e. not discussing it publicly. Which is normal and correct.
You got your answer. Deal with it.
If you compare it (perish the thought we would do that!!) to other cases it is normal, nothing strange about it, unless you have the shinners under the bed or renting headspace.
An off topic ‘answer’ that was a poor attempt at deflection.
Showing what happens normally is off topic. Ok, have it your own way.
It is undeniably clear that Sf uses the Moscow motto when it comes to the media. Unless its all pro-Sf then it must be suppressed and denied till the kingdom come.
It's inevitable that those that are defamed by politically motivated journalist were going to challenge those defaming them. I think the weaponisation if Irish media is more evident than even since the last election with more and more journalist moving to advisory positions with FFG. Journalist rewarded for attacking opposition parties and TD's https://www.businesspost.ie/more-politics/growing-number-of-journalists-jump-ship-to-take-fg-adviser-jobs-0f8e2640
I think it is part and parcel of the status now achieved in Ireland.
No longer willing to take the snide comments and insinuations favoured by many here and in the media, and highlighting the utterly vacuous need to try and implicate people who were, in some cases, not even born or very young children during a conflict/war that is long over.
A few cases like this and maybe the desperate and biased might watch their tongues.
When the mask slips, the real agenda is revealed.
Silencing the opposition to Sinn Fein is the goal of these SLAPPs actions. The last sentence of this post makes it clear that there are some on these boards who support the attempt to censor free speech.
Well, Francie, in scouring my posts for such evidence, did it ever occur to you that what we are facing from Mary-Lou and Sinn Fein is unprecedented in Irish politics. Continuous attacks on the free press from a political party and its leader are unknown in Ireland. How may lawsuits does the Sunday Times report on from SF figures today? Was it as much as ten?
You will find posts from me condemning the likes of Trump and Putin (remember him, an old favourite of Sinn Fein) who are the type of international politicians who engage in similar activity. So, over to you, perhaps you can produce evidence of any other political party engage in such a sustained and sinister attack on free media in Ireland, with the number of legal actions running into double figures over a short period of time.
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