I doubt Ukrainians share your view, and what you would prefer is irrelevant.
Well they better send troops and military aid to Ukraine if they want to get fed, and help defeat Russia, if as you claim, they won't stop.
You prefer Ukraine not to exist? The mass graves are occurring already. Keeping russia bogged down in the east while Europe switches energy supplies and the west gives Ukraine all the equipment it needs to further destroy the Russian war machine is preferable to Ukraine not existing anymore. In my opinion anyway.
Oh, there not all like that I'd say, some of them at least have seen action I imagine, judging by their posts.
No logic too it, if Russia takes the east their imaginary threat that they think is there is still there from Ukraine. No pleasing them, they'll want more and more.
Russia has a history of land grabbing, bit by bit they gain, in 500 years time they'll take UK, needs to stop not, need to push them back, and take the fight into Russia, Ukraine needs to flatten one of their cities.
Russia won't stop.
Ukraine can't stand against Russia indefinitely.
I perfer an un-existence Ukraine before more mass graves.
In the not so distant past, in Kadyrov's Fathers time, Chechens killing Russian soldiers ( and vice -versa) was the done thing, maybe its becoming fashionable again? Neither is Kadyrov the choice of President for the majority of Chechens, he rules pretty much like Putin, by force and intimidation plus he is seen by Muslims as betraying the faith by helping Putin, who is killing Muslims in Syria and other places.
I believe Russia had planned for 3 days. In February. That's a long 3 days.
It will be interesting to see the US response to this as the instability will not be in their interests.
Okay. How quick will this defeat be and in what form? Flesh it out with some proper details, what time frame are we looking at.
Germany went to war with THE WORLD , twice!
Never a remote possibility? You should tell the Ukrainians that.
They've pushed the invaders from the North. They've held onto the capital. The west seems more or less secure.
Russia's three day war is now a fair bit longer.... Huge casualties and mega loss of equipment.
Germany position (or the chancellors anyhow) seems to be stab Ukraine in the back to appease Putin.
Obviously doesn't destroy the tank but causes damage and the crew has to bail. These can be attached to slightly modified store bought drones I believe.
So Ukraine should surrender it's country (and national identity) to Russia to prevent World hunger ?
Ukraine drove them from the North once they were armed well enough. Keep supplying them with heavy weoponary and it might be surprising what they can manage to do. They're much better trained, and motivated than their Russian counterparts and it's shown so far.
Hope this isn't bad news for anyone over here, when you look at the sticker in the 2nd photo
If Ukraine stops fighting it ceases to exist, if Russia stop fighting the war ends.
@CalamariFritti
"The Ukrainian government have let themselves being made a pawn by the US and now they try to drag the world into WW3. This has to stop before its too late"
Can you please explain to me how the country which has been invaded by a hostile neighbour (who has threatened nuclear war on the whole world) is trying to drag the world into a WW3? Your "This has to stop before its too late" is a message that should be sent to the war monger in the Kremlin. Victim blaming at its finest.
general consensus is that will be anything but quick. Most likely will turn into a forever war with Russia never taking full control, but at the same time never able to push further into Ukraine, and that eastern region just turning into a wasteland
with Finland joining NATO which effectively means Putin has lost (if losing is defined as being in a worse position afterwards than was the case before)
I don't know, but one thing I am sure of, I would rather have lived under Hitler than under Stalin any day.
And thats an opinion shared by many East Europeans that I worked with whose parents and grandparents experienced life under both of those regimes.
I disagree wholeheartedly with you. Nothing suggests a quick defeat at all. Given the shambles that the Russian military have presented so far I don't see anything to suggest they are capable of winning this fight. If they carry on in the same vein I can see a catastrophic defeat on the cards especially if they have an artificial deadline of the 9th of may to get a win for Putin.
I suspect that the Russians have threatened the Germans with turning off the gas if they provide heavy weapons and the Germans have blinked.
Russia have been shown up as the biggest military bullshitters in the world. They're great when it's an uneven fight or against civilians but put them up against an organised, motivated, intelligent and reasonably well armed foe and they cannot cope.
Highly doubtful.
North Africa and Middle East need Ukrainian wheat. The longer this war persists the more desperate these regions will become in the coming future.
Russia won't stop. One side has to.
@Kermit.de.frog Ukraine is facing a quick defeat now and the best they can hope for is Putin drawing a line over Luhansk and Donetsk. .
You must be the only one with that opinion
It would certainly explain his persistence with the war, but it would also be risky. This is no low level localised conflict with occasional skirmishes at the border, but a full on war between two large European countries. The same analysts think Ukraine is going to launch a major counter offensive in the East soon enough - whether Putin will be able to handle that is anyone's guess.
Germany's position appears to be strategically sensible to me.
Ukraine is facing a quick defeat now and the best they can hope for is Putin drawing a line over Luhansk and Donetsk. The west was lulled in to false sense of security over initial Russian failures coupled with Ukrainian successful propaganda.
The reality facing Ukraine now is really, really stark.
Maybe more people will start understanding why certain countries were always highly reluctant. They've known the outcome here since the beginning.
We can have all the sympathy in the world but a successful medium term defence was never a remote possibility.
the biggest problem in years to come in educated coutries will be population decline, which makes this war even more stupid. It might not be as big of a problem in the EU because we have constant immigration coming in but in nationalistic countries like China and Russia thats not the case
I mean when you start talking about "far right problems" they have to be put into context and assessed with a little perspective. Some Azov members have espoused neo-Nazi views, some have brandished Nazi symbology, etc. This is also happening in Western armies and NATO members; so it's hardly some sort of unique phenomenon.
In a democratic Ukraine with ambitions to join NATO and the EU it was naturally one of the perceived barriers to that process. Particularly in light of other far right movements across the West and concerns about same.
In the context of a Ukraine defending itself from a military invasion by an arguable bona fide fascist state I think displaying some neo-Nazi symbology or showing some extremely nationalist tendencies is pretty far down the totem pole of "things to be concerned about in Ukraine".
That could all very well be true, but to be honest with you I'm starting to wonder if Putin's OK with a long, protracted war in Ukraine. Such a scenario would create a necessity of sorts to decouple Russia from the West both economically and culturally, and what if this is what Putin has wanted to do for years? How much pain is he willing to go through to achieve that and this new world order he has spoken of with Xi? It's what 1984 talked about - perpetual war as a tool. Using it to sow hatred of the enemy, devotion to the state, deciding what is true and what is false.
And meanwhile he can just continue to wreck Ukraine. Maybe not take it over, but lob missiles all over the shop, stop economic development, and make it impossible to join the EU or NATO (despite all the pronouncements of partnership and friendship, neither bloc will accept Ukraine while it is literally being invaded by Russia).
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