That's a don't challenge my posts type .
Or do people believe they can just parachute heavy artillery into a country and expect soldiers to operate it effectively without hands on experience
Russia actually being civilized with the attacks
You need serious help
I hope you didn't have your car left in your buddies garage in clane ! It might have a bit of smoke damage!
"Russia actually being civilized with the attacks." Where exactly are you getting your information from on how the Russian military is conducting their invasion?
Your own post and link show that it would be short term pain and nothing that Germany hasn't weathered in the last 20 years.
While the extermination of Ukrainian democracy, mass war crimes against humanity, including mass murder may not weight much in Germany over good relationships with Comrade Putin, it's actually a big deal.
The damage to Germany in Eastern Europe, where it is now viewed as verging on as hostile through its sheer coldness to their survival or the welfare of Ukrainian civilians.
That damage will last long past Russia's inevitable defeat.
So they opened up 3 fronts for shíts and giggles? Or maybe they just thought they'd do a bit of raping and executing before heading south.
Either way, didn't go too good for them. Where do you expect all this extra hardware for Total war to come from. Your tank and helicopter factories just shut because they have no parts. Maybe a few Postman Petrov vans could be shipped down to ferry your hero's round the front.
Putin has one war aim. Distract you poor saps by creating boogeymen in case anyone might get any ideas about moving him on. He'd kill you, your family and every single solider he has in order to maintain his own sorry ass. And you don't even have the common sense to realise it.
No, war isn’t won by gaining new territory. War is won when the goals of the one of the belligerents have been achieved. On 24th February Vladimir Putin stated that the goal was the “demilitarisation and denazification of Ukraine”. The Russian military expert view at the time was that it would take five days. Eight weeks later he appears no closer to achieving his goals. Instead, by invading a sovereign territory he has:
- Killed innocent civilians and been justifiably accused of war crimes
- Lost at least 20,000 troops
- Suffered embarrassing military setbacks in northern Ukraine
- Lost his flagship of the Black Sea fleet
- Led to an increase in the size and capabilities of the Ukrainian army, including at least 20,000 new volunteers from other countries
- Made enemies of nearly every democratic nation on the planet
- Ensured the expansion of NATO in Europe
- Triggered a large increase in NATO spending on defense
- Crashed the Russian economy
- Ensured that all Russians will be hated by Ukrainians for generations
If the campaign in Donbas were successful (as you put it) it would be difficult even for the Kremlin to spin that as a “win”.
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It's not simple to support a foreign military without sending a single combatant. Tremendously difficult I would imagine. Like professional soldiers spend years training on modern equipment in combined operations and still might not perform in the real thing. The us are going to send them modern equipment, to a live battlefield, that they've never used and they don't even share the same language. Like they'd be doing well to be ready for action in a few months surely? Which might not be a waste of time, going by the rate of this war, they might be trading shells for a decade in donbas. Perhaps that should be the outlook in the west, we should start planning for a multi year war.
I can't help thinking there is a seething resentment and jealousy among the Russian nationalists. By all accounts, Ukrainian people were better off, better educated, had a much better standard of living etc. They've gone in there as a bunch of ignorant thugs and vandals and trying to 'put manners' on the people of Ukraine.
Apparently shot himself before he killed his family
How could they train them on something they haven't been given yet.
They announced the decision on the 13th; which means the decision would have been made before that. Yet here we are on the 18th being told "training will start in a few days"; meanwhile Russia has started ramping up its attacks in eastern Ukraine.
My point is that the West is in constant reactionary mode; slow to approve heavier or modern weapons, and when those weapons are approved they're slow to provide training. They react when the next atrocity is uncovered instead of acting proactively to try and prevent the next atrocity.
Quite the achievement. Probably only a Russian could manage that feat.
You could try to read posts once in a while; it usually helps when having a discussion.
I was talking about training in order to operate weapons and that the training should have started as early as humanly possible precisely because it takes time to be able to use it effectively.
Aside from which we're not talking about training Afghans who have never seen a howitzer; we're talking about Ukrainian artillery battalions and trainers who already train and operate howitzers of various types.
Surrender of Ukrainians? https://twitter.com/Antonio01613638/status/1516024693962452996?s=20&t=9XobFaRTLKl8lS2Et449tg
What are exactly are you expecting ,in 3/4 to announce they are sending artillery which the Ukrainans need to be trained and qualified to use safety , effectively , accurately ,
Including bringing the guns , ammunition and trainers from a US base then transport all of that to another country to train soldiers on and then transport all again to ukraine to be used ,
All this takes time , planning and the logistics in place first,
There good but they don't work miracles
Could be a meeting of the Mariupol Macramé Club, there's nothing to show who, where or what those people are!
Cheerful S - you've had more than enough rope. Putin apologists are really not welcome - do not post in this thread again
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Where in the name of Jaysus did you pop out of? 😕
Anyway your username is missing an S.
Where are you pulling those numbers from?
3,500 personnel and 800 Azov Battalion members since the beginning
Ha, that's funny, I was told the same thing about the Yak-52 when I was learning aerobatics. As basic as you get. The undercarriage retracted only part way in case you had a dead-stick landing and couldn't pump them down. It kept the nose out of the mud!
I'm reading that US intelligence thinks this evening that Ukrainian forces still hold a third of the city of Mariupol, so all the talk of the fight being virtually at an end and mass surrenders and so on is likely just the usual Russian lies and misinformation.
While we wait for Russia to attack ,Ukraine is going after traitors and organised crime from Russia instead.
Would tally up with you tuber speak the truths map i posted earlier approx id say
I wonder is the delay in taking Mariupol down to the Russians refusing to storm the entrenched positions. I suspect that they are resorting to bombing at distance and just working to prevent supplies getting in. Such a siege can a very long time.
Meanwhile, multiple parents can't contact their sons who were crew, and several crew are being sought by the FSB for contradicting the official line by having funerals and being buried.
Thanks for sharing the truth!
The 21st century version of Goebbels
It's really amazing how Russia has turned into their hated enemies
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