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Three Ireland 5G

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    Caspero wrote: »
    Wow I wasn't aware you could do that. How do you do it - through the mobile app?

    It worked for years on the old €20 Topup plan, its no longer an option on the new pland. You have to setit up as a payment method on Google pay. Theres a thread on hereaboyt all about this.

    Edit:
    Here you go.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057869861


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    MrGarak wrote: »
    I wonder is the 5G cutting out a router thing or a 5G signal thing. Hopefully something that Huawei can fix with an update...

    I don't know if it makes a difference but might help – when I inserted the SIM it seemed to set up the network using the old O2 APN details so I added the Three APN details manually and set that profile as active just in case.

    As far as I can remeber, Mine set up as 3internet, not at home today, so can't check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Has anyone here tried the ZTE 5G CPE MC801A vs HUAWEI 5G CPE Pro2 on Three?



    Or even the OPPO 5G CPE T1 ?


    I'm temped to just go with the CPE Pro2 and know it works on Three, but will need to check 5G coverage here first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭MrGarak


    I can recommend the CPE Pro 2 anyway. I was a bit skeptical of Huawei coming from an Asus router but mines been great so far. If you can get a 5G signal indoors on your phone and a speed test shows decent speeds, then signal/speeds should be good on the CPE Pro 2. I'm only using 4G on mine and getting 160-200 Mbps down and 50-65 Mbps up, delighted with those speeds. I'd say mileage could vary a lot between masts...

    One thing I didn't know with Three broadband, if you want to access devices in your LAN remotely it is not straightforward. Three is using CGNAT and assigns you a private IP. You are behind double NAT so can't even use DDNS to connect to your router remotely, you have to tunnel in. I can't imagine most people will need this but it was a pain for me and is worth mentioning IMO.

    Judging by this post on the Three Community, they might be looking to change this situation (maybe by enabling the use of ipv6 instead of their half-arsed ipv4 approach, who knows).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭feargantae


    I'm starting to pick up 5G on the old €20 plan. Getting speeds of about 400Mb down, but the coverage is very intermittent and different from the other 5G plan i had where i was getting ~900Mb down


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    feargantae wrote: »
    I'm starting to pick up 5G on the old €20 plan. Getting speeds of about 400Mb down, but the coverage is very intermittent and different from the other 5G plan i had where i was getting ~900Mb down

    Just 4g+ for me on old plan, have a Xiaomi note 9t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    I've seen coments around the difference between 5g and 4g+
    My understanding is that not all three 4g cells will be 4g+
    Is that correct?
    If so, what's the best way to check before upgrading my router?

    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Nuphor


    ArrBee wrote: »
    I've seen coments around the difference between 5g and 4g+
    My understanding is that not all three 4g cells will be 4g+
    Is that correct?
    If so, what's the best way to check before upgrading my router?

    Cheers

    Easiest way I've found is:

    - View nearby sites on https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/
    - Look for sites where there are multiple Three towers. If you see two Three towers, one with a "3_" prefix, one with "THREE_", you can be fairly certain that site serves 4G+
    - 5G sites _should_ have "NR" in the services area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    Nuphor wrote: »
    Easiest way I've found is:

    - View nearby sites on https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/
    - Look for sites where there are multiple Three towers. If you see two Three towers, one with a "3_" prefix, one with "THREE_", you can be fairly certain that site serves 4G+
    - 5G sites _should_ have "NR" in the services area



    Is that reliable as a method?

    The closest site to me has both THREE_ and 3_ variants, is there any chance it is not serving 4G+??


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 bazrushe


    ArrBee wrote: »
    Is that reliable as a method?

    The closest site to me has both THREE_ and 3_ variants, is there any chance it is not serving 4G+??

    Download the nperf app its very reliable and accurate shows you the coverage 3g 4g 4g+ and 5g of providers in your area.I use this all the time .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Nuphor


    ArrBee wrote: »
    Is that reliable as a method?

    The closest site to me has both THREE_ and 3_ variants, is there any chance it is not serving 4G+??

    Pretty reliable. Obviously nothing quite beats setting up a router or phone and checking. Most of Huawei routers will show a switch to 4G+ for instance when you're downloading something large, but likewise won't show 4G+ all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    Nuphor wrote: »
    Pretty reliable. Obviously nothing quite beats setting up a router or phone and checking. Most of Huawei routers will show a switch to 4G+ for instance when you're downloading something large, but likewise won't show 4G+ all the time.


    I don't have a capable router yet and looking to justify upgrading if the site serves 4g+.

    I should be able to borrow a suitable phone though so could check with that.

    Other people's data in nperf suggests there are pockets of coverage nearby...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    As Three Ireland's H1 financial results were released this morning; they made an announcement today that they are to invest €27 million into their retail stores here to promote an "connected lifestyle experience". I'm guessing that money is being used to promote the increasing benefits of using 5G products while providing new product lines from their stores.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭jeffk


    Out in Kildare village yesterday and got 5G even though on the old E20 keep your credit plan.

    Never got it before (on Android 12 beta and can't turn off 5G like I usually do) and usually have it off

    Be curious to see if get it again in other places now I can't turn it off




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Kenny Powers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭jeffk


    No I didn't

    I'd think about it if you could use credit you have over



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭jeffk


    Got 5G for a spilt second in Drogheda at the new Mr.Price

    Weird how randomly i happen to have it



  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭kittytwister


    I went into three shop in Kilkenny l10 days ago to upgrade to 5g €45 plan. Was told my address does not qualify although I can get it on iPhone 12. The transmitter is on Glencaum a hill between Graiguenamanagh and Thomastown. Rang three customer care at three and was told yes it was available. Funny it shows it’s available on their coverage map, which is not up to date. Went back in today and was told again that I could not get on the plan as it’s not available at my eircode address and in fairness to the three assistant in the shop, I was able to see yes he was correct. Where would you go from there? Talk about encouraging us to CONNECT!! Am thinking of getting a router HUAWEI CPE pro 2 from Poland on eBay. Anyone got one from there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I read from the indo tonight that Three Ireland are increasing their prices by 4.5% in their bill pay contract plans from next April. There will be no price increases for pay as you go users.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Interesting, it looks like sim only contracts and possibly those in contract not upgrading not affected but that's just what I'm reading from the article 🤔, personally I gave up on long term contracts years ago, makes absolutely no logical or financial sense unless someone needs device to be subsidised I guess.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Was anyone here affected with Three's outage during the week. I didn't really notice it that much until Dublin Live had a story about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    Was thinking of upgrading to 5G was on the chat to a customer service rep and gave him the go ahead and he sent me the t&c’s. Said cant keep credit.

    i use my phone for internet and 1 call a day to a landline.

    Not too bothered about keeping the credit. But can i use the credit on a month to month basis like for ringing a landline checking voice mail and texting a charity to donate a few quid



  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    Nice one. Will give it a miss so.

    How do you make a voice call to landline then. Do you have to top up more?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭MuddyDog


    Apologies if not the place to ask but what APN settings should I be using to get 5G from Three. Just paid 25 quid for a PAYG Sim with the 5 Euro 5G 28 Days Data and I'm about 1km from a 5G enabled three mast but only getting 4G and 4G+. And yes my phone is 5G capable :) I've a Xiaomi Redmi K30 Pro. In the settings on the phone I can select to use 'NR' only which I believe would be 5G only but when I select it I immediately get no data. Have to go back to NR/LTE to then get 4G/4G+.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭MuddyDog


    Thanks. Is that the APN address yeah? Any proxy/port or other settings?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    You support n78 so should be able to link.


    Forcing NR may not work in an NSA deployment, you need the 4G link too. Go closer. B3 LTE will be far more attractive than n78 NR at range.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9 IrishWhiskey


    Does anyone know if installing one of Three's antenna dishes for 5G would void the homebond warranty on a new house? I'm worried it might due to drilling the outer concrete wall that would likey need to happen


    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Does anyone know if 3 still offer a free trial of their mobile broadband in order to ensure you have 5g coverage before committing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    There should be a two week cooling off period when you can return.... but I can't remember if this is for in store or online purchases! it's one or the other, if I remember correctly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    It's online. 14 day cooling off period for online and phone orders. Doesn't apply to purchases made in store.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    Three offer an "expert install" of 5G which seems to have the same router and setup+ongoing costs (as checked today), with the difference being that they install an external antenna.

    Does anyone know what model of antenna it would be?

    Also, From what I read, the Huawei CP pro2 doesn't provide for external antennae. Does anyone know what three do in this regard?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 BringerOfRainX1


    The Huawei CPE pro 2 only works with Huawei's own external antenna by an ethernet port connection which three offers. However they recently just added the ZTE Mc801a which does have the connections for 3rd party external antennas. I've been hoping three would add this modem for a while now thankfully they have. The 5G external antenna I bought won't go to waste. Also I should note that far as I know three only allows 5G to work on these two modems. Other people have tried buying 5G modems that three don't sell but 5G won't work on them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Where could one acquire a ZTE Mc801a that's not from Three?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 BringerOfRainX1


    German Tech website Sotel sells it for €275. They sell it on Amazon also for €313. Cheaper to buy it directly. I'm not sure if three's 5G will work with one that isn't sold by them though. My guess is they don't want people topping up prepay SIM cards for €25 and putting them in 3rd party 5G modems for proper unlimited data like people already do with 4G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    I bought the Huawei CPE 2 Pro from Sotel, works fine with three SIM for 4g and 5G.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 BringerOfRainX1


    Well that answers that question then. Glad to hear. Are you topping up a three prepay SIM for 5G yeah? I might start doing it with the ZTE MC801a.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    I bought it with that intention, but I found that the Three sim on 5G timed out more often than on 4G, and for a longer period(this was about a year ago) so, as three had upped their 4G game, and are giving me 200/300Mbs, I stuck with 4g, also, my 4g sim is of the old prepaid type, meaning I can use the credit to pay for disney+, buy google books etc. I fI go 5g, I pay €5.00 extra, and lose the use of the credit.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 BringerOfRainX1


    I don't mind paying the extra fiver for 5G but if it times out as much as you say it may not be worth it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭thebo


    Do you need to be close to 5g mast to benefit from full speed as I assume 5g range is much shorter than 4g.

    I only get between 5mb - 30mb speeds with 4g currently. Doubt 5g would help much as I'm bit far from mast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,636 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Depends on the frequency band used, the higher the frequency the shorter the range. The MNOs are using the 3.6 GHz band for 5g now, also the 1800 MHz band iirc.

    4g is used further down in the 700/800 MHz bands, so greater coverage. The 700 MHz band is a future 5g band.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 BringerOfRainX1


    If you have a 5G phone or someone that does you can test the coverage and speed around the house and see. There is one particular spot out the back of mine that was great when I was testing 4G+ on my phone last year and that's where I put an external antenna.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Heraldoffreeent


    Last time I tried was about 14/15 months ago, not long after 5g was launched, it may have been an early teething issue and might be sorted out now, or it may have been only on the sector or mast I was connected to.


    The problem I had was with video, If you were streaming video from some sites, the timeout would last long enough and the reconnection was slow to intiate, so video would stop and it would be several seconds to a minute before it would restart.



  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭thebo


    Interesting about the external antenna might try that. How much did cost you setup antenna and is it easy enough install yourself?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 BringerOfRainX1


    I'm about 9km from the nearest 5G mast and on the edge of the coverage area according to their map. I think I will wait a little longer and test it out with a 5G phone down line before getting a 5G modem and prepay SIM setup. In regard to the external antenna it cost around €250 I think with extra cable that I needed. Had to run a lot of cable though the attic to reach the room with the modem. I attached it to a pole so I could change the direction in future if I need to. There is a lot that goes into the installation but it depends where your modem is and where the best coverage/speed spot around your house is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭Cork981


    Very impressive 5G throughput on Three just outside Cork City.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 BringerOfRainX1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭jeffk


    Has anyone got the addon and kept the old E20 keep your credit plan OK?

    Plus would 5G work on a pixel phone and are the speeds much better?

    Cheers



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