So the balls-up has started since last night which makes Fairview from clontarf to Edges corner a single lane with bollards down the centre.
This will be a permanent feature and works will take 21 months.
Tbh the way I would phrase that is cyclists would cycle on both sides, on a divided path that had only intermittent and un-obvious signs as to which side was the correct one. But the reality is that due care will always be needed by cyclists on it, it goes right past a busy playground and kids kicking a ball about.
I agree, for the time being the "mixed use" designation makes the most sense.
Yep, it's right by the pedestrian overpass and yet people on this thread say sure it's a grand auld lane. :rolleyes:
The segregated route didn't work all that well, as pedestrians would often walk on both sections anyway. One of the reasons they mixed it was because of a pedestrian being hit by a cyclist in the cycle lane side.
That's fine inbound (if they would re-segregate the cycle and pedestrian lanes through the park as the shared space is a mess). For outbound though would you expect all cyclists to cross at Annesley Bridge into Fairview Park, then exit before Westwood to cross back over to Howth Road / Malahide Road / Clontarf Road? And what if someone wants to stop into Marino Library or any of the shops along the route?
It wasn't a joke - it was said by a listener live on radio!
Motorists can also use all the other roads that are provided for them, like Griffith Avenue, or Alfie Byrne road.
I always think of the “buried balls deep in …..” joke then I see this thread.
They could use the other cycle lane, the one through the park - many do. No cars parked there.
The plans look good though. I just hope these lanes will be used and traffic lights respected on the route.
This cycle lane project in Fairview is a really good idea to try & address this problem of cyclists trying to compete with other forms of road traffic in the area. I have both walked & taken the bus in that area on a few occasions before. There are areas around that spot are both dangerous for both cyclists and pedestrians mainly due to the amount of cars that park outside the shops that are located right across from Fairview Park.
To solve, for all of this, is to buy a motorbike.
Problem solved. Be grand.
I used to strip to my boxers to cool down, but I've let out some of my space to other people, so not appropriate anymore. 😂
just towel off when you get to work, and spray underarm. Nae bother.
Coming soon......Fast & Furious Fairview
I think this needs to be settled in a street race, at rush hour. After the kids are back to school.
I'm not the one who begun discussing capabilities clearly in reference to speed and ability to cycle distances so take it up with them.
Interesting that you associate 'capability' with speed. Are there not many other important aspects of being a good cyclist? Is speed even one of them at all, when we are talking in a commuting forum?
If you are very unlucky, sure. By that logic it would take 20 mins to drive it.
This is my last post on this matter. Cycling 4km is one thing. Doing it in rush hour traffic in a city not designed for or even welcoming of cyclists, while hemmed in at some of the worst traffic spots in the country is another.
I know the route, I know the shortcuts, I know the light sequences. I know how many people I pass by and how often I'm passed by others, in both directions.
Your last post showed that you just think I'm sh1te on the bike, so whatever.......I'm too old to be dealing with crap like that.
Go out and cycle that route at your regular pace at half 5 on a Friday, see how you get on. Or don't. I couldn't give a fook either way. But making blanket statements like "it's only 4km, you're monumentally slow" serves nobody.
Life's too short to be drinking bad wine. Peace
I'm guessing that much of the 30mins would be waiting at traffic lights.
What mask?
Taking 30 min to cycle 4.2km is incredibly slow and the majority of people would be quicker. Suggesting it is not an easily cyclable distance is disingenuous in the extreme.
There we have it. The mask slips.
I'm out.
And I'd be above average in terms of capabilities.
Clearly, you are not if you are cycling at 150% of walking pace. You said it takes you 30 min to cycle to Donnycarney Church - that makes you monumentally slow.
That junction area is a nightmare for anyone, once you turn the corner you have to watch for vehicles coming from your right off the fairview road as you take that left turn, plus kamikaze pedestrians, then more vehicles from your right and left crossing and merging onto the malahide road, before you're scooting up a tiny paint-cycle lane.
Had an issue there a while back with a large SUV, cutting up the bus lane, almost hitting me on the bike. He then cut right and went straight, rather than the mandatory left.
Then started beeping at me for not being in the 'cycle path' as we approached lights at Alfie Byrne road. That painted line on vehicle is awful to cycle on, and even worse on a long wheelbase cargo bike.
Nah, I cycle to get from A-B and to stretch my legs, I don't cycle as a gym replacement. I started cycling when I lived in rural Germany and on an omafiets, so I think our intentions are vastly divergent.
That section of bus lane at the college just before the shops on the left is absolute carnage at times, dozens of cars jump into the bus lane before the bus stop just to get ahead of others trying to correctly take the left lane and up the Malahide road..... Why don't we have Bus lane enforcement cameras in this country?
I've no shower in work, so have to pace myself on the way in for that reason. Unless I'm running late!
Often go faster on my return journey as I can jump in the shower as soon as I get back.
Nah, if you're not sweating then you're doing it wrong. The whole point of it is to get a bit of a workout while commuting, no?
for some, not for all, not by any stretch. most people probably don't have showers in work. most people want to cycle as a cheap and efficient way of getting to work and are not interested in a workout.
I actually meant to type O'Connell Bridge, but whatever. The point stands.......I've cycled that route for 4-5 times a week for 15+ years. It's 20-25 mins on a really good day (and I mean really good), and 30+ mins during rush hour when the universe conspires against you. It's at least another 15 to Clarehall. And, despite what another poster says, it's uphill for the vast, vast majority of it.
This is Garmin's take on the route...
Using my sister as an example, she hadn't cycled since she was a kid, got a used bike and now will happily do Howth Head (~150m). Over 8km, 42m isn't that much of a challenge.
And I'd be above average in terms of capabilities. This is beyond the realm of probably 85-90%+ of people I'd encounter when I do take the bus/train in. Telling people they can cycle in because it's only 10km is pointless when they can't/won't cycle 500 yards.
Not sure about the numbers who can't cycle 500 yards - I'd say the vast majority simply won't do it but that's why we have a bus service, etc. The most important aspect is that there is a safe route that allows those who choose to cycle it to do so.
Nah, if you're not sweating then you're doing it wrong. The whole point of it is to get a bit of a workout while commuting, no? If you're too cold on the bike, you're not going fast enough. There's no way I'd cycle in anywhere that didn't provide showers. I wonder if your co-workers would agree with you about the "not breaking a sweat" part? Also, there's no way you'd do that route in under 45 without breaking a sweat.
Brilliant, fair play. Pretty irrelevant, though, when I'm talking about cycling to Clarehall, really? I mean I've walked to Stephen's Green from Parnell Square in 15 mins before, but that's equally as sh1te a comparison as your one.
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