I challenged your post, not out of spite, but out of curiosity to find where you came to this assertion. On the otherhand, you made an ad hominem attack and called me a keyboard emperor. Do you see the difference between the two?
You can't caricature 70-80 million people. There are nuances and complexities. Black people, women, LGBT people voted for Trump. One of my favourite Youtube creators are LGBT, Dave Rubin, Matt Walsh. They would be Trump supporters. I don't subscribe to the simplistic view that to support Trump you must be guilty of all the "isms" you can name.
You didn't challenge my post in any sort of honest quest to find truth. Instead, you successfully diverted the conversation down a meaningless rabbit hole. I find it frustrating and disingenuous. I wonder how Trump would respond to your claims that he is not rich.
all of them? probably not. at least one of them? most likely. the exceptions are those republican voters who would never vote democrat and hold their noses while they vote for trump. the last group aren't trump supporters though.
Again you've dodged the question, show me where you came to the assumption of trumps wealth?
That is challenging your post in case you haven't realised
There is no scientific proof of someone's wealth. You can slice and dice it in a million different ways. People can be asset rich or cash rich, depends how you want to present it. But most reasonable people would think Forbes is a reasonably reliable (though imperfect) source for "Rich Lists".
Ask the mass murderer, the quote is from him.
You literally compared gay people with pedophiles.
I think I'll take your word over the ramblings of a mass murderer thanks very much. You are better than a mass murderer right?
The Forbes list is in no way an empirical list as the figures are user submitted and are in no way verified.
Trump has been proven in court to exaggerate his wealth in multiple instances to guarantee loans and to make that list.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/436292-trump-exaggerated-wealth-hid-debts-as-a-businessman-report/amp/
I'll copy/paste my other post:
I acknowledged that Forbes is imperfect, and I also correctly stated that "wealth" can be defined in multiple different ways.
Please, educate me, what is an empirical list or what is the gold standard for measuring a person's wealth. It's funny, while we are arguing over whether or not Trump is rich, he is waking up in opulent surroundings for another day in paradise. But yeah, he's poor!
It's not my place to back up your assumptions, it's yours
You do get that children cannot consent so on no level whatsoever are there "parallels" except in the sick imaginings of certain individuals.
Can we stop pretending same-sex couples with kids are an everyday occurrence? How many of these types of families do you actually encounter in your real, daily life? Not on TV, in the real world.
They are a tiny minority - and we should be tolerant and accepting but not rip up old societal norms to pretend they are more common than they are.
I could have ten credit cards maxed out and drive around in a Ferrari. Am I rich?
there are parallels because people like you continue to make them.
You're asking for evidence then dismissing the sources as unreliable. So I genuinely don't know what to provide you with. Help me, I am too stupid and I need your expert advice on a reliable source. Have you got one?
That's exactly my point as I've stated several times. It's subjective. But with Trump's real estate, 5th Avenue, Mar-A-Lago etc, I think most reasonable analyses, like Forbes shows, would agree that he is worth at least a couple of billion.
The Forbes list, as I showed with evidence, is no empirical. You did not provide a reliable source or link to back up your statement, you've waffled on and dodged for the last couple of pages and haven't shown anything
The answer is no. I'm not rich.
I have the appearance of wealth.
There's a difference.
I was drawing parallels to the way the two groups are viewed by mainstream society now and 50 years ago. Which are similar.
no, you are trying to draw parallels between the two because of homophobia. exactly as it happening now in the states. you are just trotting out pro-trump talking points.
It's funny, you carry on as if you are rational and factual and are willing to change your mind depending on the evidence. When in actual fact you are more like those 3 "can't see you, can't hear you, won't speak to you" monkey emojis.
The truth is, there is literally no evidence that would change your mind. If you personally saw his financial statements that said Assets are 1bn and Liabilities are (0.5)bn you would still not accept it. If Trump's bank showed you a room filled with gold coins like Scrooge McDuck you would not accept it. There is literally no evidence that would make you pause to reflect, so why do we carry on with the charade?
As I said, he is going to wake up today in ridiculous opulence and will continue to do so until his dying days.
Show me a link that substantiates your point! It's not that hard
So if Trump is not rich, what is he? Poor? Middle class?
Funny thing is his enemies were the ones calling him a billionaire as a stick to beat him with, saying how can a billionaire connect with ordinary voters etc. But now we are supposed to believe he's broke or something.
Similarly, he's an evil genius white supremacist but he's also a total dunce who can't find America on a map.
You're trying to draw parallels between homosexuality and paedophilia.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FCUK MAN????
There is no link that will be accepted by you. It IS that hard. You will never ever ever accept any link. EVER!
Kids have more adult relations than just their parents. Aunts, Uncles, older cousins, older siblings if there is a large age gap. Family friends who come around for dinner. Any of whom may be around for dinner or at a wedding and bring their partner. Straight or gay relationship. Or maybe a kid has a friend whose parents are same sex etc. etc. etc.
With much more societal acceptance people are not hiding their personal lives as much and therefore people and children will see same sex couples more often. I like the tolerant and accepting but we should deny their existence to kids as much as possible and compare it to talking to kids about pedofiles.
Also what societal norms are being ripped up?
I don't think you are actually reading my point. Just seeing what you want to see. Nothing that I've said is homophobic. Gays were treated horrifically by society 50 years ago. Criminalized, ostracized. Similar to how paedophiles are treated today. That's not homophobic to say that.
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