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Fuel Protests - Dublin 11 April

MrMusician18

Tomorrow a large protest is being organised by a group calling themselves "The People of Ireland Against Fuel Prices". The last time they had their day out it turned into a damp squib, but the warnings about disruption tend to point to this being more disruptive. They seem to be a rag tag bunch organising through your favourite social media platforms as per usual.

Among their demands is a price cap. The caps the group are seeking are €1.10 per litre for petrol, €1.20 per litre for diesel, 65c per litre for green diesel and 65c per litre for home heating oil. Oh and the resignation of Eamonn Ryan.

Given that the price of fuel is being driven by global events well outside of the government's control, it strikes me as a completely pointless protest that will only disrupt the ordinary working stiff.

Tldr, avoid Dublin city centre tomorrow.

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blackwhite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910198#Comment_118910198

Cycled past it on way to work this morning.

25 vehicles is being generous

seamus

Laughing at their list of "demands".

A few spanners who know how to drive trucks basing a public protest on the kind of list of demands that primary school kids would come up with - i.e. well-meaning but obviously very simplistic and completely unrealistic.

Morto for them outing themselves publically as being this stupid.

Noxegon

We are in an environmental emergency. Fossil fuel usage needs to be radically reduced in order to avoid calamity in the future. Whether we like it or not, pricing is one way to accomplish that.

Just my €1.97...

Hurrache

Going well for them.

https://twitter.com/AislingNiCTV/status/1513453508422516736

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910198#Comment_118910198

And I bet the few lads that did turn up have quickly realised they've been had again by a portly lad who stuff's breakfast rolls down his throat, and is nowhere to be seen, other than behind his phone running a few facebook pages and fake profiles.....

blackwhite

Just started raining in Dublin 1 - there goes any chance of the rent-a-mob crowd deciding to show up

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910479#Comment_118910479

It about time the Gardai got the battens out and smash a few lads

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910528#Comment_118910528

I think the longer they stay, the more traction it'll gain.

jill_valentine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910600#Comment_118910600

They have less support this time than they did at their last effort, which was less again from their first one. But for some reason you think being such a laughing stock on Day 1 they couldn't bring the kind of numbers Hare Krishnas can to O'Connell Street makes you think people will now flock to their cause?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910600#Comment_118910600

Not going to happen

Lower turnout than before, second front (the GPO stuff) failed to even happen, getting fined already and will likely be towed by the end of the day.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910245#Comment_118910245

As a species, our choices are limited to a binary of emitting less carbon or leaving a massive global catastrophe to our children and grandchildren.

The catastrophe can of course be avoided if everyone else in the world behaves responsibly and Ireland doesn't. But if other countries also come to that conclusion and assume it's everyone else's responsibility then we're screwed, which is why international agreements are in place to ensure all countries act together. If we choose to turn our back on international rules and norms and turn ourselves into North Korea that is always an option, but I'm not sure it's an option worth taking in order to allow some hauliers a slightly bigger profit margin for the few months before they completely run out of fuel because no nation will trade with us.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910636#Comment_118910636

All in all, a good result

blackwhite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910600#Comment_118910600

It's less that 20 cranks whom the even rest of their own industry don't want to be associated with. If they can't even get fellow truckers to join them what makes you think they'll get the public on board? Attacking the general public isn't exactly how to win hearts and minds.

Last time around they drew a bigger crowd of spectators down to take a look than actually protesters. This time around the spectators haven't even materialised

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910667#Comment_118910667

Except for the hard-working hauliers who use the Tunnel and East Link every day.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910656#Comment_118910656

In the grand scheme of pollution figures to Air and water globally where do Ireland sit as an offender would you think?

Patser

Even their own Facebook page is starting to turn into a 'Where are ye all!!! You promised, and now we're getting fined and looking awful' type blamefest

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910698#Comment_118910698

Watch a go fund me appear now to pay the fines.

They won’t be able to resist the grift.

Get Real

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910600#Comment_118910600

I don't think so. As said by a few,its a few extreme, disorganised people with some legitimate hard working folk roped in.

I'd have no problem with a protest organised by legitimate, working people, with planning and cooperation between different unions and associations.

The organisation of this isn't by any official group, its mostly by unemployed nuts, spouting other stuff on twitter and telegram. Each trying to further their own profile and cause. They even fight among each other as to what they should do. And there's severe jealousy and politics.

This is the closest they can come to connecting with ordinary people who go to work and also have issue with the current cost of living.

But lets not get confused. We can support the cause, just not their version of it. I doubt you'd sit for a coffee or pint, or go for a walk with these people. I wouldn't anyway. They don't represent the majority in this country.

One man involved in this has a website talking about fetus' in injections, the Pope is a warmonger, all while having a nice donations page while claiming social welfare.

Another woman who likes to use a megaphone and be heard is also long term unemployed, taking money for decades, and spouting all sorts of stuff to others. It's mad stuff, never worked in their lives.

awec

Opened their Facebook page, and first thing I spotted under the "Related Pages" section was Ben of the clan Gilroy's page.

Oh dear. 😅

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910600#Comment_118910600

No chance, they should have turned around at 3am this morning when they knew nobody else was with the fruit loops

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910786#Comment_118910786

What did you expect, their brain trust on here has been busy posting with their usual well thought out and logical arguments.

brokenangel

Went onto the website, same shower of useless pri*ks you see with Gemma shouting everyone is a "llliiiiaaaaarrrrr".

Gardai would be better just putting the lot of them into the wagon and sticking them into the Joy for a few hours.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910786#Comment_118910786

When someone asked about letting people into hospitals etc...the response was something about "cagged animals" during Covid.

I really do fear for the stupidity levels of this country

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910005#Comment_118910005

yes, yes it can as we are part of an organisation of countries and have signed up to commitments.

and it will be imposed and we will pay it.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118911060#Comment_118911060

As I stated already there Paris agreement is in no way legally binding. There are no "fines" for not hitting targets.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118911060#Comment_118911060

Yes Ireland on its own will make no difference but we're part of the EU, 500 million people and China's biggest customer. The EU can make a huge difference.

maestroamado

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910025#Comment_118910025

I expect we have to tick all the boxes to retain our current payments which i think goes mostly to farming... i am happy to be corrected as i don not really know the EU money goes...

See the mess in Derrybrine , Galway... kept paying huge sums in fines and now it has to be removed...

What are they like...

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118911080#Comment_118911080

Not every visit to a hospital is an emergency, but they are no less important.

And who were they to decide who gets to use the road? Who gave them that right?

They are an embarrassment.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910689#Comment_118910689

Per capita, we sit pretty highly and are above the likes of the UK, France, Spain, India, Mexico, Italy and many many more. Do you think the citizens of those countries, who as individuals are already responsible for fewer carbon emissions than you or I, should all be exempt from any responsibility as you believe we should be?

This logic leads to catastrophe if you think anyone in the world who happens to have arranged themselves into a jurisdiction of relatively low population should be allowed to pollute at will. Where do you want to draw the line? EU commitments should only apply to countries with 10 million or more population while the other half of members do what they want? Should the approx 50% of American states that have lower populations than Ireland also be exempt from all responsibilities? Should the 20 or 30 Chinese cities that happen to have a lower population than Ireland declare themselves as independent states so it will then be ok for them to burn as much fossil fuel as they want?

If you keep coming up with excuses why you should be allowed to emit as much carbon as you want without any consequences while everyone else cleans up their act to make up for it, you eventually end up in a situation where nobody does anything.

UrbanFret

What would the prospects of travelling from N3 Cavan side to Beaumont.?

Thanks.