That is the UK not Ireland and are the stats taking into account the percentage of foreigners in relation to the uk white male population. What about the Muslim grooming gangs that are rampant in certain cities in the uk ? Well it would be interesting to see the result .
I do apologise, I didn’t imagine your point that we never see statistics on rape and sexual assault committed by foreigners actually meant to exclude reports compiled from statistics in foreign countries. I do hope you’ll be equally as stringent in pointing out to all posters that statistics from other countries do not apply to Ireland.
Yes it’s taking those percentages into account and also taking into account the fact that your peculiar focus on the impression of Muslim grooming gangs that are rampant in certain cities in the UK ignores the reality that most perpetrators of gang rapes, rapes and sexual assault are perpetrated predominantly by white men of UK origin.
I’m not aware of any kind of national survey of victims of sexual violence in Ireland that would be comparable to the SAVI report that was done in 2002 (about 20 years out of date now), so the idea of data being available which would give a representative picture of the situation in Ireland is unlikely to yield any statistics worthy of consideration based upon what you’re hoping to find - ‘the prevalence of rape and sexual assault committed by foreigners in Ireland’. At least not until the CSO completes the survey they have undertaken -
https://www.cso.ie/en/csolatestnews/pressreleases/2019pressreleases/csotooverseenewnationalsurveyontheprevalenceofsexualviolenceinireland/
We've moved from "they took our jobs" to "they took our houses".
Good to see we've moved on from that too. Pity it's a move to "D' foreigners r rapists".
I mean seriously, lol 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
The link below shows non nationals as being over represented in the prison population and its rising . In 2020 it was 23.2% depending on the national population stat you believe from 12to 17 %. None available for rape or sexual assault.
https://www.irishprisons.ie/wp-content/uploads/documents_pdf/NATIONALITY-GROUP-by-Year-2007-to-Year-2020.pdf
Yes such a survey would welcomed I am hoping to see an accurate result . Reports from others European countries show a higher rate of rape and sexual assaults notably Sweden . I apologise for the mention of Muslim grooming gangs dare I suggest such crimes maybe higher in that group.
They did not take they were given .lol
Refusal to identify any negative behaviour amongst minority groups is a holy sacrament amongst WOKE progressives
In 2020 it was 23.2%, compared to 25.34% in 2019.
But yet you're here claiming that 'it's rising'.
Oh be honest, you’re hoping to see a result which supports your already preconceived ideas about any association between criminal behaviour and nationality 😂
It’s why you made the point in the first place that article which mentioned the report done in the UK, you pointed out that it wasn’t Ireland, and now you’re making a point about reports from other European countries which show a high rate of rape and sexual assaults, notably Sweden. Yes, the way Sweden records statistics relating to rape IS notable, precisely for the reasons that the way the offence of rape was redefined in law led to a 75% increase in convictions since 2018 when the law was changed -
https://www.thelocal.se/20200616/how-swedens-new-consent-law-led-to-a-75-rise-in-rape-convictions/?utm_source=Solutions+Story+Tracker
https://www.thelocal.se/20201006/how-do-swedens-rape-statistics-compare-to-europe/
There’s no need to apologise for the suggestion that Muslims are over-represented in statistics related to grooming gangs perpetrating child sexual abuse, it just points to the fact that such a suggestion is in direct contradiction to the suggestion that the judicial system in the UK is afraid to convict anyone on the basis of accusations of racism, xenophobia, etc. They’re clearly not, nor does that suggestion acknowledge the fact that the perpetrators of sexual violence against women and girls are predominantly comprised of men among the indigenous population, as some posters here prefer to characterise them.
Shes Irish, born and bred. Everyone would accept that and anyone who doesn't is simply racist.
If you seen a man of Pakistani origin who’s family are living here 100 years commit a crime on the street and the police asked you what he looked like you’d say Pakistani/South Asian, it’s where he is ethnically from, it can’t be changed no matter how much you wish it to be
In the interest of discussion, I wonder if the other posters who liked that comment that the girl isn't Irish could tell us why?
That would be @[Deleted User] @rgossip30 @Fandymo @golondrinas @Arthur Daley
Take it away lads.
Um, that's not racism. It's quite sad that we've reached this point where people don't actually know what racism is.
Although, then again, you're the one making an issue over her race, whereas that other poster simply objected to who could become Irish.. in that being born here is not enough.
Perhaps you could counter what that poster said first? Not dance around the issue, throwing mud at other posters. Show that you're capable of logical argument. Then, we might give you the time of day.
As for my like, it's because of the context of the post. If I had a kid in China, who was White or mixed, they would never be accepted as being Chinese by Chinese people from the mainland. And I know plenty of people in that exact situation, and none of them have ever felt accepted by "pure" Chinese people. You'll find the same thing happen in Japan, where everyone is in a rush to show how more Japanese they are, rather than mixed (which most of them are). The point being that tribalism is real, and people, regardless of what laws are passed will have their own perspectives over who is, and can become a particular nationality, or such. I could live in China for the next 100 years, and I would never be accepted as Chinese. It is what it is. It's only in Western nations that there is this expectation that foreigners or other ethnic groups be accepted the same as the native group, but in reality, it rarely is applied equally.
Now, show that you're worth engaging with, because quite frankly, as of now, you're not worth spit.
She's only an Irish resident or citizen.
If she's an Irish citizen, shes Irish in every legal sense. You might disagree, thats fine, but it doesn't change the fact that she is Irish
One has to wonder if she would receive so much hatred if she were whiter
So Paul McGrath and Phil Lynott are not Irish according to the racists in this thread. Can you explain why they are not Irish in more depth? It seems like your reason was because of some weird stories about China and Japan right? And you say my opinion isn't worth spit lol.
Desperate to shut down this conversation aren't you. We know you wouldn't dare answer the question and say Paul McGrath and Phil Lynott are not Irish because you know how that will look but you can do for this girl even though it's the same thing. You did have some weird China stories to back yourself up though.
If you ask police for a.description, they will describe you as seen. Basically what the person looks like. That does not describe their nationality. Police cannot describe someone's nationality. Unless they are psychic!
describing what someone looks like, or their ethnicity is not describing their nationality. Only an absolute thick could think otherwise
And what do you believe is the difference? In an ethnically Irish person, or a person that has lived their entire life as an Irish citizen?
Great.Chinese people are racist, so Irish people.should be racist🙄🙄
What do you mean you are plastic paddies?
I'm 9th generation Irish. If you're saying I'm not Irish despite having 2 Ireland born Parents and 8 previous generations then there is no way she can be Irish by your logic [or lack thereof]
Why would you think I'm not saying you're irish?
If a person isn't born here they are just an Irish citizen, their nationality is the country they were born in.
The libs on the thread can say they are Irish like those of us born here until the sky falls but it still won't make it so.
Just looked at this Christine ones twitter account, all she seems to do is criticize this country.
You said I was a plastic paddy.
You.do know That anyone born here is not irish? Right?
A better 18th birthday than might otherwise have been the case for this young lady from Ukraine
Are you drunk?
That makes no sense.
True nonetheless
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Seriously?
Yes its time to put the whiskey bottle away.