ASB issues with people throwing stuff off them, too.
We don't seem to have many overhead walkways in the country. Not sure why that is. Disability access? Doesn't usually seem to bother them 😄
Im going to guess it's the extra space needed for the on and off stairs. Someone else might know the actual reason
Looking online there's no mention of overhead pedestrian walkways. Madness if they don't put them in but that's the council for you. Does Galway have any overhead walkways? Can't think of any over a busy road.
Cars fly through that Maldron roundabout if it's clear and continue on at full tilt up the dual carriageway towards the Galway clinic. If a person or cyclist steps out onto a zebra crossing in front of the wrong lunatic it's a disaster waiting to happen with the speeds cars drive at there.
Ya. Completely with you on this. It's crazy dangerous too. The standard of driving in this country is so poor
Or by direct bus either
As a very frequent pedestrian, there is little I hate more than a motorist trying to be "considerate" by stopping for me to cross when other traffic isn't stopped - especially on a dual carriageway.
Just get the fcúk out of the way, I'll wait for the natural break in the traffic that always comes.
Any idea how many penalty points does one get for this offence?
Driving through a ZEBRA crossing when a Warden(head to toe in Hiz Viz) is on the crossing with a Stop Sign?
The 'missing the point' is strong with yourself.
i drive electric so we can be excluded right
Another reason to bring them in, 30k speed limits lead to lower emissions from motor vehicles
Maybe we need to put drawbridges or some other physical barrier for pedestrian crossings that would physically prevent cars from moving through a crossing
I'm not sure I understand why traffic lights would be dangerous. Dangerous in what sense? For who?
Absolutely, they need a way to make it accessible to people walking, jogging, cycling. I've no issue with that. I'm 100% for providing people with safe access.
If they could build a pedestrian bridge, or pedestrian tunnel, that would be fantastic
Anyway, this thread is about traffic issues, which is what I was trying to highlight. I do think, putting pedestrian lights here is dangerous, and will add to traffic issues.
I think lunacy is a better description for the status quo, that has a significant employment and retail destination only 13 minutes walk from a population centre, but which makes it almost impossible to go there on foot. But I get your point.
No argument about crossings at RAB's being inherently dangerous. RAB's by their very design are pedestrian unfriendly regardless of any mitigation measures taken.
To your point, I can see that junction eventually changing to a full light controlled one which would improve things a lot. Probably 5-10 years before that happens though
At grade crossing at a busy roundabout on one end of a dual carriageway is bonkers
Accidents waiting to happen. Overpasses make far more sense given the location
Are you purposely obtuse?
I didnt say pedestrian crossings are lunacy. Pedestrian crossings are great things generally.
I said pedestrian crossings on roads with 100km/hr speed limits are lunacy. It's all there in my original post
If these are pedestrian crossings beside roundabouts they are not going to be very safe, traffic lights or not.
An example of what I'm talking about is the crossings that used to be at the other Maldron hotel roundabout at Terryland. You had the crazy situation of cars coming off the roundabout and slamming on the brakes when they saw the red pedestrian light.
Much better to either a) build pedestrian overbridges, b) build pedestrian underpasses or c) to replace the roundabout altogether with traffic lights, which allow for safer pedestrian crossing.
I realise of course, that none of these options will happen because building at-grade crossings is cheaper, and there will be no appetite to replace the roundabout with traffic lights.
My partner used to work near there and would often have to wait several minutes to cross if he was walking/jogging past the roundabout on his lunch break. If drivers were more considerate of pedestrians this wouldn’t have to be done.
Why are pedestrian crossings lunacy?
Are these going to be light controlled crossings?
Peak time traffic in Oranmore is pretty bad at the moment (was going to say disaster, but we're only on day 2, so might improve)
Basically, while work is going on replacing the roundabout at the Galway Clinic, roadworks have also started at the Maldron roundabout in Oranmore on all four roads which join the roundabout.
I heard on Galway Bay Fm yesterday, that the works at the Maldron, are for introducing pedestrian crossings on all roads, and should take 6 weeks.
Seems like an unnecessary idea. Fingers crossed, that if they're doing it, they are doing it right, and adding pedestrian bridges across each road.
Putting pedestrian crossings on these roads, 3 of which have 100km speed limits is lunacy
From my experiences so far, in morning time, traffic coming north towards the Maldron roundabout is backed up all the old Dublin Road roundabout, and is even worse if the train is coming.
Yesterday evening, there were tailbacks all the way from the Galway Clinic to the Maldron
The whataboutery is strong with this one
How much time do you spend stuck behind the bikes compared to the time you spend stuck behind other cars?
I'm in that situation. 5km from the city centre and 8km from work. City centre takes me about 15 minutes to reach by bike and work is between 25 and 35 minutes depending on wind direction and traffic lights. It's comfortably achievable even for someone a bit older like myself. That's on a traditional bike. With an electric bike the comfortable distances could likely be twice as far out from the centre.
I have an issue with groups that ride more than two abreast. There's no need for it except in organised rides like the monthly Salthill Community Cycle that has Gardai front and back directing the participants to bunch up. But I've also noticed drivers getting their knickers in a twist on Twitter about groups riding three or four abreast, and posting pictures that they think clearly demonstrate the case. They don't seem to realise that, just because they can see the backs of more than two cyclists, it doesn't automatically follow that there are cyclists riding more than two abreast. I can't seem to find the video right now but someone did a clever montage combining the view from behind a bunch of cyclists with a view from a drone flying directly above them to illustrate this point. The drone view showed that the group were cycling in pairs, two abreast the whole way up, but because they weren't lined up exactly like soldiers on parade, the view from behind looked like they were three or four abreast.
Then you get the complaints that cycling two abreast is inconsiderate, even though it is completely legal, because it is holding up traffic. But the reality in most cases is that cycling two abreast should hold up traffic less for drivers who are overtaking legally. In a 3m wide traffic lane a driver performing a legal overtake of someone on a bike is going to need to enter the oncoming lane. Say the bike is 50cm from the kerb, the bike is 65cm wide, and you need to allow 1m space when passing, that means the left wing mirror of the car should be 2.15m out from the kerb. Then, in a 2m wide car, a little more than half of the car width needs to be over the centre line. So, if you need to be over the centre line in any case, having the group of cyclists two abreast means that the group is only half as long as if they were travelling single file so the passing driver can complete the manoeuvre more quickly and has more opportunities to do so rather than having to wait for a longer straight stretch of road and a longer gap in oncoming traffic.
Arguably the same logic applies to a group riding 3 or 4 abreast; that it should be easier to overtake because the body that needs to be passed is only one third as long, or one quarter as long, as if they were travelling single file. But it's illegal so it shouldn't be happening.
That should not stop one from cycling,walking (or even taking public transport if one lives in Galway City) for most people.
If you have a family they have to goto Creche/School, usually people pick the local one.
Why not start there - walk (under 1.5k)/ cycle(under3/4k) on the creche/school drop off when the days are bright and dry.
Ya gonna start somewhere, people just develop habits and find it hard to get out of them, the first lockdown of the Pandemic in Spring 2020 showed that up for sure.
I cycle too and less about the city but what grinds my gears with cyclists is on the weekends when they are 3 or 4 people wide spanning from the hard shoulder to about 1m from the line in the middle of the road. It isn't hard to slow down and wait for a passing when they are 1 or 2 wide but the larger recreational groups can be really frustrating.
Its slowly, REALLY slowly, starting to dawn on our elected officials that we need to change how we do things in relation to getting people from A to B
For most people, once you buy a house or rent somewhere large enough for a family, you will not be living close to work or city centre anymore.
Why only up to your 20's?
I think a lot of people are in the same boat in this Country. They have a cut off point when they used to walk, cycle & public transport, IMHO i think it definitely helps to see it regular. That is why I reckon driving standards on the Continent are better, the vast majority of people continue with all modes throughout there adult lives.
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