I'm in that situation. 5km from the city centre and 8km from work. City centre takes me about 15 minutes to reach by bike and work is between 25 and 35 minutes depending on wind direction and traffic lights. It's comfortably achievable even for someone a bit older like myself. That's on a traditional bike. With an electric bike the comfortable distances could likely be twice as far out from the centre.
How much time do you spend stuck behind the bikes compared to the time you spend stuck behind other cars?
The whataboutery is strong with this one
Peak time traffic in Oranmore is pretty bad at the moment (was going to say disaster, but we're only on day 2, so might improve)
Basically, while work is going on replacing the roundabout at the Galway Clinic, roadworks have also started at the Maldron roundabout in Oranmore on all four roads which join the roundabout.
I heard on Galway Bay Fm yesterday, that the works at the Maldron, are for introducing pedestrian crossings on all roads, and should take 6 weeks.
Seems like an unnecessary idea. Fingers crossed, that if they're doing it, they are doing it right, and adding pedestrian bridges across each road.
Putting pedestrian crossings on these roads, 3 of which have 100km speed limits is lunacy
From my experiences so far, in morning time, traffic coming north towards the Maldron roundabout is backed up all the old Dublin Road roundabout, and is even worse if the train is coming.
Yesterday evening, there were tailbacks all the way from the Galway Clinic to the Maldron
Why are pedestrian crossings lunacy?
Are these going to be light controlled crossings?
My partner used to work near there and would often have to wait several minutes to cross if he was walking/jogging past the roundabout on his lunch break. If drivers were more considerate of pedestrians this wouldn’t have to be done.
If these are pedestrian crossings beside roundabouts they are not going to be very safe, traffic lights or not.
An example of what I'm talking about is the crossings that used to be at the other Maldron hotel roundabout at Terryland. You had the crazy situation of cars coming off the roundabout and slamming on the brakes when they saw the red pedestrian light.
Much better to either a) build pedestrian overbridges, b) build pedestrian underpasses or c) to replace the roundabout altogether with traffic lights, which allow for safer pedestrian crossing.
I realise of course, that none of these options will happen because building at-grade crossings is cheaper, and there will be no appetite to replace the roundabout with traffic lights.
Are you purposely obtuse?
I didnt say pedestrian crossings are lunacy. Pedestrian crossings are great things generally.
I said pedestrian crossings on roads with 100km/hr speed limits are lunacy. It's all there in my original post
At grade crossing at a busy roundabout on one end of a dual carriageway is bonkers
Accidents waiting to happen. Overpasses make far more sense given the location
No argument about crossings at RAB's being inherently dangerous. RAB's by their very design are pedestrian unfriendly regardless of any mitigation measures taken.
To your point, I can see that junction eventually changing to a full light controlled one which would improve things a lot. Probably 5-10 years before that happens though
I think lunacy is a better description for the status quo, that has a significant employment and retail destination only 13 minutes walk from a population centre, but which makes it almost impossible to go there on foot. But I get your point.
Absolutely, they need a way to make it accessible to people walking, jogging, cycling. I've no issue with that. I'm 100% for providing people with safe access.
If they could build a pedestrian bridge, or pedestrian tunnel, that would be fantastic
Anyway, this thread is about traffic issues, which is what I was trying to highlight. I do think, putting pedestrian lights here is dangerous, and will add to traffic issues.
I'm not sure I understand why traffic lights would be dangerous. Dangerous in what sense? For who?
Maybe we need to put drawbridges or some other physical barrier for pedestrian crossings that would physically prevent cars from moving through a crossing
Another reason to bring them in, 30k speed limits lead to lower emissions from motor vehicles
i drive electric so we can be excluded right
The 'missing the point' is strong with yourself.
Any idea how many penalty points does one get for this offence?
Driving through a ZEBRA crossing when a Warden(head to toe in Hiz Viz) is on the crossing with a Stop Sign?
As a very frequent pedestrian, there is little I hate more than a motorist trying to be "considerate" by stopping for me to cross when other traffic isn't stopped - especially on a dual carriageway.
Just get the fcúk out of the way, I'll wait for the natural break in the traffic that always comes.
Or by direct bus either
Ya. Completely with you on this. It's crazy dangerous too. The standard of driving in this country is so poor
Looking online there's no mention of overhead pedestrian walkways. Madness if they don't put them in but that's the council for you. Does Galway have any overhead walkways? Can't think of any over a busy road.
Cars fly through that Maldron roundabout if it's clear and continue on at full tilt up the dual carriageway towards the Galway clinic. If a person or cyclist steps out onto a zebra crossing in front of the wrong lunatic it's a disaster waiting to happen with the speeds cars drive at there.
We don't seem to have many overhead walkways in the country. Not sure why that is. Disability access? Doesn't usually seem to bother them 😄
Im going to guess it's the extra space needed for the on and off stairs. Someone else might know the actual reason
ASB issues with people throwing stuff off them, too.
I used to live near a couple of these in Dublin. A lot of people can’t be bothered going up and down the stairs so it doesn’t really prevent people crossing in front of traffic. On the N11 they’ve added pedestrian lights at junctions as well as the bridges.
The govt have launched the Sustainable Mobility Policy document and Action Plan today. There's a LOT of stuff in the action plan which outlines a huge amount of changes coming for mobility (walking/cycling/PT, private cars).
Action Plan is linked below
https://www.gov.ie/pdf/?file=https://assets.gov.ie/220900/f64bdce8-c407-4ff2-9374-cbef88f39874.pdf#page=null
Is this similar to the huge changes which they regularly announce for the health service?
New pedestrian crossing going in at the Trappers on the Tuam rd
Much needed, there's a large distance between the junction at Fleming's and down to Riverside without a pedestrian crossing.
True, I think the junction at Trappers should be signalized at this stage considering it is surrounded now by traffic signal junctions.
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