Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

It's also common in Yorkshire as well isn't it? Maybe he's from Leeds.

Should they not be called spouting points rather than talking points since he's spouting them?

Twitter translation of a document published in Russian Media - which outlines what will need to be accomplished to denazify Ukraine

The special operation revealed that not only the political leadership in Ukraine is Nazi, but also the majority of the population. All Ukrainians who have taken up arms must be eliminated - because they are responsible for the genocide of the Russian people. Ukrainians disguise their Nazism by calling it a "desire for independence" and a "European way of development". Ukraine doesn't have a Nazi party, a Führer or racial laws, but because of its flexibility, Ukrainian Nazism is far more dangerous to the world than Hitler's Nazism. Denazification means de-Ukrainianisation. Ukrainians are an artificial anti-Russian construct. They should no longer have a national identity. Denazification of Ukraine also means its inevitable de-Europeanisation. Ukraine's political elite must be eliminated as it cannot be re-educated. Ordinary Ukrainians must experience all the horrors of war and absorb the experience as a historical lesson and atonement for their guilt. The liberated and denazified territory of the Ukrainian state should no longer be called Ukraine. Denazification should last at least one generation - 25 years. Then the author goes on to detail exactly what needs to be done:

For anyone who doubts the translation - here is the original link

To say that this is monstrous - is insufficient - This is a Russian 'Final Solution' - its horrifying

Oh I do agree with shutting gas off now, no argument there from me. As for the 1% GDP figure, that's not written in stone and I would even call it wildly optimistic. The true damage may be greater than anticipated, and yes, I still think we should do it.

It's very typical for something written to exact specifications within a totalitarian dictatorship.

Russia will soon turn into North Korea.

Mar 30: Ru troops leave Bucha

Mar 31: Mayor of Bucha announces town 'liberated', makes no mention of atrocities.

https://ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3445989-bucha-liberated-from-russian-invaders-mayor.html…

Apr 1/2: Azov enter Bucha

https://nytimes.com/live/2022/04/03/world/ukraine-russia-war#scenes-of-desperation-and-death-as-the-russians-retreat-from-suburbs-outside-kyiv…

Apr 3: Ukr MinDef publishes video of 'Russian' atrocities

https://nytimes.com/live/2022/04/03/world/ukraine-russia-war#ukraine-accuses-russian-forces-of-executing-civilians-in-the-town-of-bucha

Back during WWII you had the axis powers of Germany, Japan, Italy and to a lesser degree Romania

Who are the axis powers of today? Russia, Belarus, Hungary? China? certain African countries with Soviet sympathies?

March 31st it appears the last Russians left the district

April 1st and 2nd Ukrainians and Press enter the district and see the bodies.

You wrote:

"Well, there are videos which were made after russians left but before ukrainian army arrived. No corpses on those. Also it took nearly 4 days for atrocities being "found" by ukrainians."

Which videos and what 4 days? If this is a mistake just admit it.

I've seen photos/video where the bodies look "fresh", however it's hard to tell with cold/weather at what stage of decomposition they are in. It appears many of the bodies filmed on the streets have been there for weeks. This debunks your attempts to hint that these bodies were staged by the Ukrainians.

What I am saying is that there is a war going on in there and atrocities and killing is done by both parties. What we see in media is pure propaganda for one or the other side depends entirely on which media you follow. I understand russian language to some extent since we had it in a school. It was good 30 years ago but most of it is still in there.

What happened in Bucha is no different of other similar incidents in other parts of ukraine. Some bodies are work of rusian and some of ukrainian forces and anyone who think otherwise is a fool. This sight is pretty common since people on front lines over there are actually asked to leave their dead by the side of the road to be collected later. This explains some yet not all of the dead bodies over there or any other place. Mainly those with tied hands look pretty bad.

I said it many times, there is civil war going on in there and no matter how any nationalist be it russian or ukrainian try to spin it they are essentially the same - slavs and presently killing each other for some idiotic reason. The sooner this will be over the better for everyone involved.

I am not up to date with pronouns and their use but if I understand correctly you want to be addressed as we or do you feel as spokesperson of some group? I will go with pronoun you seems to use so I will not offend you in any way as today people seems to be offended by everything. You feel free to address me any way you like I am not that easily offended I have seen it all here.

Counter argument to what? Why would you/we/they ask me to refute satellite images? What do you/we/they not understand on guidance issued by authorities in nearly all places on front lines about leaving their dead outside to be collected later? Perhaps that street with about dozen bodies was the one where most of the fighting was going on who knows... There certainly are not bodies on every street over there otherwise as we would already know about that. I already said, and will say it again that bodies with hands tied behind their back are concerning but the rest do not appear much different from casualties in any other part of ukraine where fighting is going on.

That is not a counter argument.

Please refute the satellite images with credible links.

We're waiting.