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Backbenchers starting to worry about their seats.
What question is that, Francie? Will every politician tell the electorate that they won’t form a government with x, y or z? Of course they will. However, it takes a mature politician to embrace his/her opponent and put their differences aside for the good of the country. FF, FG and the Greens did just that and are to be applauded for doing so. SF, on the other hand didn’t bother returning phone calls.
So you are happy to be lied to. Okie doke. 'do you think they will get away with doing it?' was the question.
It’s not lying. They meant it at the time but results dictated future events. FF, FG and the Greens showed their maturity by sitting down, putting their differences aside and forming a government. SF did SFA.
Why? What does that have to do with what I said?
Work it out yourself but don’t attempt to make accusation against me.
I didn't read it. Not sure who you are to be dictating that anyone work out something you told them to read... 🤣
Are you incapable of talking direct as well as answering questions? Afraid you'll catch yourself out even if it's something trivial. 😂
Made an accusation and then runs away
The only party with paid account on social media is in the opposition. So toddle off and get your facts right, it not the first and certainly won’t be the last when you are talking rubbish
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And you would have proof of this?
I am sure this poster can provide you with all the information you need.
Happy to go into government with is not the same as happy to talk to.
The question was: do you think SF will say that they will go into government with any other party?
Good dodge, by the way.
What?
They will say they will go into government with anyone they can agree a programme for government with - which will require discussions.
Which is NOT a lie, like others told the electorate.
Isn't that poster talking about people who are so zealous in defence they 'think' they have a job. Which is a whole other thing to paid or anonymous account.
Genuinely think that's their 'job'. On here 24/7 disagreeing regardless. Regardless if they agree or not, regardless if they understand it or not.
If the person in question thinks people are getting paid then contact the mods, is that not the process? The only case we have seen of multiple accounts etc had nothing to do with the government parties and I provided the link only because of the accusation I might add.
I know the comment is made to get an angry response and then go to mods to get person banned from thread.
Genuinely think that's their 'job'.
That is not what that ^ says.
They are so zealous they THINK it's their job. There is no accusation of being paid there.
Not sure why you are talking for another poster?
My point was clear and concise. I have nothing more to post on the subject
Just shooting the breeze.
Your point is wrong. You weren't being accused of being paid, you were though being likened to somebody who is so zealous they 'think' defence of the government is their job. Which is a wholly different thing.
That is probably not an area to go accusing others of without first admitting your own past failings in that regard.
What past failings would that be? Wrongly using an approved account 11 years ago?
I owned up to that the minute I was reminded of it and took the punishment.
P.S. I didn't accuse anyone of anything either.
It's the magical money tree and you should read the Business Post today. Ireland's national debt one of the highest in the world on a per capita basis. Who do you think borrowed this money Mary? FF and FG have created a massive national debt and it will come back to bite us. Despite the many years of massive borrowing our health system is a disaster and housing is in crisis. Your 'I'm alright Jack' routine will mean you vote for the power swap status quo but it ignores the problems for future generations.
Taxpayers face €13bn black hole by 2030, officials warn | Business Post
Taxpayers face €13bn black hole by 2030, officials warn
Health and pension costs created by an increasingly ageing population would add an additional €7 billion to the country’s spending bill each year by 2030
Our huge national debt makes us hamstrung to deal with the next FF/FG inspired crisis - pensions.
I wont even dare venture into one of Blanch's SF threads - he sees SFers under his bed. But can I ask - what is a sock puppet? I can only imagine it's a 'bot' or 'paid shill' or whatever phrases ye use. Does that apply to government supporters who defend the indefensible or run away when asked simple questions (e.g. local government reform).
Don't get me wrong, if SF or SDs or Labour or Independents do get into government next time out, I will be the first to lambaste them if they are doing stupid things or engaging in similar corruption, fraud, cronyism, waste practices that we have seen from FFG. I have already made my distaste for certain SF members very clear (e.g. Adams, Cullinane) and I will hold them to account. I would eventually like to see new parties emerge led by honest TDs and intelligent leaders who have integrity and ideals and enter politics for the right reasons. My own TD Catherine Connolly is a perfect example.
SF were pleading with FF and FG to engage with them after the last election.
Obviously either party would have had to compromise massively to reach agreement on a program for government with SF but AFAICS SF were not ruling anyone out either before or after the election.
The government should make it clear in contracts to any paid members of government departments, state institutions and the civil service that accountability is part of their jobs. We shouldn't have to give people massive expenses to answer to a tribunal.
Thank you for the help in correcting Francie.
How was I correecting Francie?😕
I think somebody is desperate for a win. 😁
First of all, I didn't make any accusation. I said "I genuinely believe". There is a huge difference between somebody having an opinion or believing something vs accusation.
I didn't 'run away' anywhere between 00:26am and 07:28am 🤣. I was sleeping. I still stand by what I said.
No idea what paid account on social media you are referring to, but I'm sure there are paid accounts for FG online. But tbh, you would have to be very naive to think there aren't. That is still not accusing your account in particular of anything. If people want to think otherwise, that's their prerogative.
How on earth would I have the information to an alleged fact that you posted?
I have no idea about the opposition party having paid accounts on social media. Maybe you could provide a link instead of bullsh*tting that I have the the information to the allegation you submitted?
Lol.. 😂
As I am catching up on the thread, you left out a word or two. It should have said.
"My point was clear and concise and incorrect. I have nothing more to post on the subject."
And you speak of posters 'running away'? 😂
Is it outrage or Irony? Not sure which word we should be randomly using today.
Cost of living very much the issue bothering voters at the moment. Stuff like Crime, NI, Covid scoring very low. United Ireland not featuring at all.
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