The earnings gap between men and women continues to grow years after they have graduated, to €125 per week after 10 years.
A report has found that men and women graduates from 2010 earned similar amounts in the first five years after graduation.
However, after 10 years, male graduates earned €1,040 per week compared to €915 for female graduates, a difference of €125 .
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/earnings-gap-between-men-and-women-graduates-grows-to-e125-per-week-1284407.html
10 years after graduating, many women will have had at least one and not infrequently more than one child.
(Pay-walled)
Boys and body image: ‘They just don’t talk about it. But it doesn’t mean they’re not feeling these concerns’
Bombarded with images of muscled and toned bodies, boys grow up with distorted notions of the male bodily ideal, often leading to eating disorders. Professor and author Charlotte Markey explains what we can do to help boys challenge this image
https://www.independent.ie/life/family/parenting/boys-and-body-image-they-just-dont-talk-about-it-but-it-doesnt-mean-theyre-not-feeling-these-concerns-41501107.html
In the furore over Will Smith slapping Chris Rock, the big question is why is it still OK to mock how a woman looks?
https://www.independent.ie/life/in-the-furore-over-will-smith-slapping-chris-rock-the-big-question-is-why-is-it-still-ok-to-mock-how-a-woman-looks-41495442.html
I'm not a big fan of mocking people due to how they look* but it's hardly the case that only women are mocked for how they look.
*well, mainly over things they have no influence on; mocking over "fashion statements" isn't as bad.
Human trials to begin on new male birth control pill with 99% efficacy, study shows
Researchers found a male birth control pill was 99 per cent effective in preventing pregnancy and dramatically reduced sperm counts without any observable side effects, in early testing on male mice.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/03/25/human-trials-to-begin-on-new-male-birth-control-pill-with-99-efficacy-study-shows.html
Proposed reviews into domestic violence killings to examine if ‘red flags’ were missed
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/proposed-reviews-into-domestic-violence-killings-to-examine-if-red-flags-were-missed-1.4834582
Reviews are to be carried out into future cases where women are killed by their partners, or in family murder-suicides, to examine if State agencies missed previous red flags, as part of a plan to tackle gender-based violence.
Why not also when men are killed by their partners?
The plan supports the introduction of domestic homicide reviews, which would happen in cases where a woman was killed by her partner or ex-partner, or where a family member kills their partner and children.
The latter part of this suggests it might be gender neutral, but they avoid explicitly mentioning the scenario that a man can be killed by his partner.
ETA:
Actually, rereading it, the second scenario only seems to apply when somebody kills both their partner and children so it could be the case that a woman killing her partner (but no children) would be excluded. Very disappointing if that is the case.
The plan states that a national campaign on sexual consent will be rolled out, as well as one to educate boys and men about how pornography “fuels misogyny and undermines gender equality”.
No mention of dealing with things that might lead to misandry or undermine gender equality towards men and/or boys.
OK. However what I said was
“Good to see if “misogynistic” is being used, “misandrist” is also mentioned.”
What Leo Varadkar was referring to was allegedly homophobic so fit in neither of these categories.
My point was a general one that people in prominent positions very rarely if ever highlight that people can be misandrist or call people out for being misandrist in comparison to how often the term misogynist is used. Certainly people can be incorrectly called out for either which is annoying also.
Lots of people wouldn’t even know the term misandrist but would know the term misogynist.
I wouldn’t be thinking fair play to Leo for calling out “misogyny” and all the rest of it ip tbh, it’s an example of the absolute worst of identity politics and trying to play the victim, and I’d say Leo WAS actually spending sleepless nights awake dreaming up ways he could work that soundbite into his speeches.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40834928.html
Absolute pits behaviour tbh, as little time and all as I have for Healy-Rae, but he wasn’t making anything out about Leo being gay, it was Leo was making something out of nothing when he’d no other smarmy comeback. His spats with Mary-Lou are some of his best throwing shade, the pair of them swapping exchanges like little bitches hoping to go viral on twitter. They all know what they’re at 🙄
In my company I was looking at what mentorship programs exist. I'm relatively senior but think I would benefit from a mentor. There are several mentorship programs but when I looked into them, the program is organised by women, for women. There is no such program open to all which is very disappointing to me.
Don't get me wrong, I think it is great that women are being encouraged to develop their career. I have a wife and daughter and think we have come on a long way in recent times and I myself have acted as a mentor as part of a women in leadership initiative. That said, when I see initiatives that I'm genuinely interested in and believe I would benefit from, being closed off to me then it does leave a bit of a sour taste.
Varadkar on M Healy-Rae’s “fairies” comment in Dáil yesterday: “All of us from time to time say things that might be racist, homophobic, misogynistic or misandrist… we should call it out… I’m not losing sleep over it”
Is he calling it homophobic? “I’ve said what I’ve said.”
Good to see if “misogynistic” is being used, “misandrist” is also mentioned.
I only skimmed this pay-walled article but saw no mention of the fact that the gender pay gap might not be due to discrimination.
Modern Morals: My fellow female colleagues want pay transparency but I think I get paid more than them
‘Should I disclose my salary?’
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/modern-morals-my-fellow-female-colleagues-want-pay-transparency-but-i-think-i-get-paid-more-than-them-41459449.html
She’s clearly aware of the gender pay gap in Ireland, which currently stands at around 14pc, and the Gender Pay Gap Information Act 2021, which will require employers to disclose the pay gap between male and female employees in their organisation.
This legislation is a sign of progress
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“The group should request that their employer shares information on any gender pay gap, how it happened and what the company plans to do to address it. If this is a large company, as the reader suggests, they will soon need to share this information anyway.”
https://www.independent.ie/business/jobs/ireland-backs-eu-target-for-33pc-women-on-boards-41445308.html
Ireland backs EU target for 33pc women on boards
Ireland is backing an EU move to make listed company boards at least 33pc female by 2027.
Draft rules are close to being finalised after Germany reversed its long-held opposition to the plan and paved the way for talks with MEPs.
Monday’s agreement saw close to 20 EU countries support the move, unblocking a 10-year-old stalemate.
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Under the rules, listed companies whose boards have less than 33pc female representation - or 40pc for non-executive directors - would have to give priority to women when choosing between equally qualified candidates for future posts.
The UN is a disgrace anyway and a money sponge. Look at what it did for women in Afghanistan as the Taliban took over and banned women from working. It wrote a letter to the Taliban...so it did nothing!
Men aged 18-60 can't leave Ukraine due to conscription yet ...
The Ukraine war — like all conflicts — will hit women and girls the hardest, UN warns
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/11/un-women-says-russia-ukraine-war-exacts-high-price-from-women-girls.html
A blob of gel on the shoulder every morning: new gel may give men control over their fertility
A hormone-based gel designed to reduce sperm production is at the trial stage. Dan and Emily trialled the gel for 18 months, here's how they got on.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/healthandwellbeing/arid-40821165.html
She points out that while women have historically shouldered the contraceptive burden, men have had to trust women around this. “With this method, men can share responsibility for contraception and women have to trust. A male contraceptive gives men a lot of control over their fertility that they didn’t have previously.”
We demand equality but a lot of women still expect men to pay for dinner
Tanya Sweeney
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/we-demand-equality-but-a-lot-of-women-still-expect-men-to-pay-for-dinner-41429573.html
I know a great many women who pay their own taxes, run their own houses, secured their own mortgages and, in some cases, manage a sizeable team at work. They’ve Repealed the 8th, closed the gender pay gap and voted for marriage equality.
Yet mention dating to them and it’s almost as if the last 50 years of feminism have never happened.
“I’m sorry, I just like to be looked after once in a while,” says one, defending her iron-clad rule about men paying on dates.
“I just want to feel a bit small and dainty, you know?” says another, referring to her preference for a taller man.
The piece meanders after this
More men’s issues than men’s rights:
Bigorexia: Obsession with muscle gain increasing among boys
‘Your only new friends are the weights,’ says 16-year-old TikTok star Bobby
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/fitness/bigorexia-obsession-with-muscle-gain-increasing-among-boys-1.4820697
Up to 40% of women consider quitting job in past 12 months - survey
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/up-to-40-of-women-consider-quitting-job-in-past-12-months-survey-1.4819863
It doesn't give the figure for men. I imagine plenty of men would like to quit their job also but get the feeling that it would jeopardise their place in the relationship. Or similarly put them at a big disadvantage when dating.
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Separately Lidl announced it has become the first retailer in Ireland to report on the gender pay gap announcing a 6.2 per cent mean gender pay gap for 2021, down from 8.8 per cent in 2020 and lower than the 11.3 per cent average pay gap in the State. The figure also compares favourably with European level where it is 14.1 per cent, and with the UK retail sector which has a mean gender pay gap of just under 12 per cent.
“While Lidl Ireland is pleased with its progress to date, it is taking further steps to eliminate the mean gender pay gap across its 5,000 plus workforce in the Republic of Ireland,” it said.
I wonder how this been achieved by some discrimination against men and similar there will be any discrimination against men in the future to eliminate the gap.
More men's issues than men's rights ...
Just saw this on a joke site:
She asked, "how tall are you?"
I replied, "5'10, how much do you weigh?"
She got angry and said, "That's body shaming, it's hard to lose weight!"
I laughed and said, "it's harder for me to gain height!"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10579735/Women-away-telling-bad-jokes-men-study-finds.html
While possibly not the most important topic, this empirical methodology can likely reveal more valid results than much speculative research in the gender field.
To say women are not equal to men in Ireland is laughable. This is the same country where every single form of genital mutilation including castration is legal on male children (NO form of genital mutilation on boys is illegal in Ireland, boys have zero protection but every single form of genital mutilation is illegal on girls) and the Irish education system uses a calculated grading system to ensure girls do better than boys by giving male students lower scores for being male.
The Wheel, an umbrella group for charities in Ireland, are again organising an event for International Women's Day. I don't think they've ever organised one for International Men's Day.
https://www.wheel.ie/training/2022/03/international-womens-day-2022
INTERNATIONAL WOMEN’S DAY 2022
Imagine a gender equal world. A world free of bias, stereotypes and discrimination. A world that's diverse, equitable, and inclusive. A world where difference is valued and celebrated. Together we can forge women's equality. Collectively we can all #BreakTheBias.
Celebrate women's achievement. Raise awareness against bias. Take action for equality
More details coming soon!
How to register
This event will be held on Zoom. Please register below. Meeting details will be sent to you after registration.
etc.
Got more info today: it seems to assume that there is a bias against women in the nonprofit sector.
Join us on Thursday, 10 March for a conversation about how we can challenge the bias against women in the nonprofit workplace.
This year we will meet three successful female leaders in the sector who have worked to break the bias in both their private and working lives.
Our speakers will share their ideas on how we as organisations can imagine a gender-equal workplace — and world. A world free of bias, stereotypes, and discrimination. A world that's diverse, equitable, and inclusive. A world where difference is valued and celebrated.
Our Speakers
· Barbara Scully, freelance writer, columnist and broadcaster. Barbara's first book, a non fiction-look at power, wisdom, and the older woman, will be published in late Spring ’22.
· Lianne Quigley, Chairperson of the Irish Deaf Society (IDS). Lianne has worked extensively in the sector for many years and received the ‘Deaf Woman of the Year Award’ to recognize her extensive voluntary work in 2019.
· Susan Hawkins, Leadership and Management Specialist at the Institute of Public Administration. Susan specializes in management, leadership, innovation, and change, and will input on unconscious gender bias in the workplace.
Hear the amazing journey and insight of these incredible women, ask questions, and gain advice on how together we might #BreakTheBias.
Book your place here.
The Wheel
The Ukrainian government has also announced compulsory military service for all men of fighting age.
https://www.thedailyherald.sx/international/ukraine-declares-state-of-emergency-announces-compulsory-military-service
Not convinced the prevalence is that high. But certainly the numbers aren’t negligible but it is an issue that has been brushed under the carpet.
Question: I just found out through DNA testing that my father isn’t my biological dad, and my real father died many years ago. No one else knows this except my husband and presumably my mother. She most likely had an affair – they were in the same social club.
Only my mother knows the truth, but I don’t want to rip my family apart and wreck my elderly parents’ marriage just to get some answers that I know won’t be enough.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/i-ve-discovered-through-dna-testing-my-father-isn-t-my-biological-dad-1.4801963
This is presumably true something like Ancestry as an ordinary DNA test would just say whether someone's suppose it father was the father or not.
I mentioned before such testing could reveal some paternity fraud
Maybe you have half siblings that don’t know of your existence or your children (if you have any) may be likely to engage with people in their lives who are actually their relatives – this becomes difficult when the next generation starts dating.
This may be an unlikely scenario if you live in a city, but it becomes a genuine possibility if you are living in a smaller community. Inherited medical conditions may also be important to either you or your (future) children and we have not even broached the topics of identity and belonging.
I don't think there is a recent men's health thread, so I'm posting this here:
Eating disorders in men: ‘I kept telling myself that this doesn’t happen to lads’
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/eating-disorders-in-men-i-kept-telling-myself-that-this-doesn-t-happen-to-lads-1.4784365
Ellen Jennings, communications officer at Bodywhys – the national voluntary organisation supporting people with eating disorders and their families – says an eating disorder can affect anyone at any stage, but for men there’s a stigma around eating disorders being a female issue, and that results in a double stigma.
“Eating disorders in men are underdiagnosed and undertreated and it can take them longer to recognise there’s a problem. And when there’s a delay, the issue can become more entrenched. More men come forward at a stage where they’re so physically unwell that they might require more intense treatment.
“From March to September 2020, 40 per cent of hospital admissions for eating disorders were male,” Ellen says. “The pandemic, that’s really the epitome of things being out of control – that uncertainty, the loss of routine and the usual coping methods that people had were all taken away by the pandemic and being thrust into that online environment.”
A year later, Cormac resumed playing. “That’s when my awareness was first drawn to it. Small comments here and there from people at training and the GAA team – stupid stuff like ‘you’ve put on a bit of timber’ or ‘you need to do a bit of extra running now’, ‘that jersey’s a bit tighter on you there’. Water off a duck’s back for most people but, for whatever reason, whether it was just I was that bit more vulnerable mentally, they just stuck. And I just became really paranoid about my physical appearance, particularly when I was playing.”
“I was in complete denial and that denial was purely driven by the fact that I was male. Completely, 100 per cent. I kept telling myself it can’t be an eating disorder, this doesn’t happen to lads, lads don’t get this problem – and that delayed me getting help probably for two or three years.”
https://twitter.com/CChulainn9/status/1495362084279832579?s=20&t=_9FHqU7HrmO86b9rN6j7GA
I'm ex military. I was in it when training was tough, you be called ****, made crawl over nettles in a t shirt.. We had 3 female recruits.. Let's just say they were looked after by the male training NCOs.
Exactly.. I'm only speaking from experience.. Women got a pass on route marches etc.. Not all women.. They were a few tough ones. Females always got the handy courses & promotions after training while men had to fight harder
https://twitter.com/CChulainn9/status/1495366409014157323?s=20&t=_9FHqU7HrmO86b9rN6j7GA
I very much doubt if the statistics were reversed, the Irish Independent would have heading,
"It’s official: women are quitters – a greater rate of men stay the course with the Defence Forces"
It’s official: men are quitters – a greater rate of women stay the course with the Defence Forces
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/its-official-men-are-quitters-a-greater-rate-of-women-stay-the-course-with-the-defence-forces-41364330.html
Around three in 10 male recruits who sign up for the Irish military never make it past the training stage and are discharged.
Figures released by the Defence Forces reveal 30pc of men who enlist either fail to make it past training, or else drop out first.
The rate of discharge among female recruits to the military was lower than for men, at just over 24pc, according to details released under Freedom of Information.
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The Defence Forces said general service recruitment was a six-stage process beginning with an online application for eligibility and a web-based psychometric test. The next step is a fitness test measuring both strength and aerobic endurance, with slight differences for male and female recruits.
Men are expected to be able to do 20 push-ups and 20 sit-ups in a minute and run one-and-a-half miles within 11 minutes and 40 seconds.
For females, the same criteria apply, with modified push-ups, and the running target time is set at 13 minutes and 10 seconds.
Security analyst Declan Power said a certain level of discharges would always be expected.
“Recruit training is always tough, and is a transformative experience for many — male or female. But the figures seem to indicate female candidates are more motivated,” Mr Power said.
“This seems to tell us that while the quantity of females enlisting is not high, the quality certainly is.”
I find it hard to tell how interesting or otherwise this book might be as the reviewer keeps saying "what about the women", etc. and generally seems a bit biased.
What Do Men Want? Why masculinity is in crisis and how to tackle it
Nina Power’s book on the role of men in the digital age refuses to view the sexes as warring factions
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/books/book-reviews/what-do-men-want-why-masculinity-is-in-crisis-and-how-to-tackle-it-41333676.html
"Critics might also argue that such questioning risks casting men as undeserving victims, running the risk of overlooking their enduring political and economic dominance, not to mention the devastation wrought by male violence."
"For Power, the self-reliance promoted by controversial figureheads such as Peterson represents something potentially positive.
“The more boys and men understand that they should not rely on women for their care, and that women do not exist to provide men with attention, the more interested (and interesting) we will all be,” she writes."
"There are many who will strongly disagree with her stance, not least her decision to focus on men at a moment when concerns about women’s safety and the gendered impact of the pandemic are headline news. "
Again, more men's issues their men rights:
There was a thread on this forum about engagement rings, but it looks like it is old now, so I would get given out to I imagine if I restart it.
So I thought I would post it here:
I thought this jeweller would be trying to subtly, or not so subtly, encourage men to spend a lot on an engagement ring, so it was nice to see him say that he would encourage men not to get into debt buying a ring.
'A woman literally ran out of the shop,' says Dublin jeweller as he gives Valentine's advice for Irish couples choosing engagement rings
https://www.independent.ie/videos/a-woman-literally-ran-out-of-the-shop-says-dublin-jeweller-as-he-gives-valentines-advice-for-irish-couples-choosing-engagement-rings-41338835.html
