Irish troops are all over the world, what difference has it made here?
I think terrorism is a good way of putting it. How far do 'we' put up with it. It's really down to NATO and their assessment.
It's ok, it's all over folks, nothing to see, move along home ...
Great. Care to spend some time answering my questions? I answered yours.
Are there Irish troops in an offensive capacity against a country with power to the extent of Russias?
It's a delight to read subject matter from someone who knows what they're talking about.
The pictures literally have RT and a Twitter username for Igor Zhdanov a "journalist" for Russia Today on them. What do you think the Russian propaganda outlet is trying to do with pictures like that?
Russia can unite all they want -- outside of Ukraine! Let them suffer the sanctions as a wall of NATO infrastructure is placed around them.
Russia can decide what role they want in the world after that, let the EU and West come together.
But we need to get them out of Ukraine first.
You have no idea whats happening in NATO. You're hearing official lines from the British and Americans. Other NATO members are not in support of the NATO stance so stop saying you're in agreement with NATO when NATO isn't even in agreement with itself. Be honest and say you are like the Brits and Americans, self interested. Americans are there to give the Russians a bloody nose without really committing to anything themselves. The Brits go wherever the Americans do. Both engaging in a proxy war with Ukranians as pawns and just like Srebrenica and Syria they stand back and watch whilst innocents get slaughtered. They only 6months ago did the same to the Afghans.
On rte news earlier they were saying Mariupol is totally destroyed and it's likely to never be rebuilt.
I wonder would the Ukrainians been better off tactically withdrawing from some of the cities n ambushing out in the countryside.
Russia is one of the great Empires of Europe, and while that started to fall apart in the European mindset and power structures gradually from WW1.
It never changed in Russia, and the same applies to China. Both remain Empires at heart and in outlook and their dalliance with Communism did not change that.
Then, best get it done now. Give the Moskovites a chance to rebuild and we will face the same situation in lets say 10 years? It's going to happen unless they are either de-nuclearized or neutralised.
There are Irish troops in NATO missions.
Correct but when they are giving an ultimatum to a city that is nearly all rubble now, you have to suspect it will go very bad.
I think that the city provided a tactical advantage - tanks and armor quite useless in urban areas -
Problem is they'll claim to have given them a chance and that anyone who stayed is an enemy combatant. Anyway, the city will be gone. Seems Putin is doubling down now and just going for destruction.
Why do you keep talking of NATO?? NATO as a military alliance are hardly relevant in this situation. It is not NATO who have invaded a sovereign state. No point at the moment banging on about NATO this and NATO that. If there is to be intervention and many of us hope that it will come soon, it should be from a collective of European states, whether EU members or not.
It's been stateted NATO will defend every last square inch/cm of NATO and wont put boots on the ground in Ukraine. They have said this is to avoid escalation. This is easily verifiable.
Western countries have supported Ukraine, without which I believe there would be a very significant result so far in Ukraine.
FWIW, I wasn't in agreement with the way Western countries pulled out of Afghanistan. It was shameful.
This is an incredibly contradictory post. Are you criticizing NATO for action or inaction?
Its an extremely flat country, mainly arable land with huge swathes of land with zero obstruction. Any army would be sitting ducks. Assault columns that can attack from small areas of cover and retreat are likely the only way to resist in such terrain.
I've said on here sanctions should be kept until Russia is denuclearised. Russia has threatened nuclear war and that cannot be forgotten.
Sorry misquoted... reply meant for Slava_Ukraine
There are no sanctions possible that would ever make Russia give up the bomb.
As are many non NATO nations (including Russia believe it or not), but just like UN missions it's on a peace keeping basis.
What states? Poland has suggested supplying migs... through the US, but then drew back behind NATO, specifically saying they wouldn't act alone.
To say NATO is irrelevant is bizarre. It's stopping Russia reinstating the Russian empire along the lines of the USSR.
I think the question facing the Ukrainians in Mariupol is stark
I cannot see them surrendering anyway - I guess they could try a break out but exhaustion must be endemic at this stage
the above map shows a civilian airport in the area to the west - but i suspect they have nothing capable of getting out - Also several reports say the Russians are dominant in the air over this region
This is horrid stuff -
Especially when half the world won’t sanction then
I'm ciriticising them for only acting when its in their own self interest and having zero respect for any human life bar that of their own citizens (and often only in the interests of their elite). Basic human decency would have seen them intervene in any of the conflicts I mentioned. They're always quite happy to start a fight or egg it on but are rarely anywhere to be seen once it goes out of control or spills into other areas. I don't see whats contradictory about wanting an organisation arranged to defend to actually stand up for some principles which they profess to be the guardians of.
Whilst of far less consequence compared to what Ukrainian citizens are going though, this war is already showing signs of impact of parts of our economy. I'm only a small fish but noticeable drop in sales (discretionary spending) since the latter part of February. It has the likelihood of impacting on many small businesses far worse than Covid.
It's the same as asking why other countries should send their sons and daughters to die in Ireland because we haven't been bothered paying for the equipment for out defense forces to defend us
Very hard for them to surrender. How could they have any confidence that the Russians would not just execute them.
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