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IAA Student Controller Program 2020

Speed_Alive

With the closing date of Jan 31st now passed, they are sending out emails currently.

This year there looks to be an additional online assessment prior to attending FEAST/DART.
Rumoured that the course will begin Sept 2020 or earlier. This will be the 4th intake in a couple of years.

How are people finding the online assessment?

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Tristan100

Final (face to face) interviews will take place in May for anyone lucky enough to make it that far. #FingersCrossed

Tristan100

The next stage of the recruitment process is taking place currently.

I completed an online questionnaire two weeks ago and this week completed a virtual interview with a psychologist.

CoisFharraige

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118793287#Comment_118793287

Hey. Have you gotten a date?

Staunton96

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118799741#Comment_118799741

Yes

Speed_Alive

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118793287#Comment_118793287

Great to hear. Is it continuing where people left off? As in proceeding to group interview etc?

Mckclaudia

Just updating the thread! Email was sent out this morning regarding continuing the process (:

Mckclaudia

Nothing yet my end! Definitely concerned because our test results have expired by now I’d say :(

AlfaTangoCharlie

Anyone have any updates?.. :/

AlfaTangoCharlie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118450750#Comment_118450750

Brilliant, hopefully things start ramping up again soon! I got an email shortly before Christmas saying they’re looking to hold the group scenario phase virtually due to COVID, and will hopefully be rolled out “in the New Year.”

Speed_Alive

I have heard from a source that SCP 17 are restarting training next week with SCP 18 to follow on later in the year or sooner.

Good news at least for those in the 'holding pool' of different stages of recuitment, as it does take quite a period of time to run the different stages.

AlfaTangoCharlie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118122449#Comment_118122449

In the same boat, heard nothing since that email, would be great to get more info but I doubt it this side of Christmas, still hopeful though!

Mckclaudia

Hey all! I got one of the emails from the IAA registering interest to continue the programme. I emailed them back but have heard nothing sense. Anyone else in the same boat?

Speed_Alive

Good to see people are getting contacted again regarding recruitment.

Word on the grapevine is that the two classes that had their training suspended will potentially be back quite a bit sooner than they thought.

Eurocontrol posted projections on traffic recovery that state full recovery by 2023, a year earlier than the previous 2024 model, so staffing will definitely be an important factor.

AlfaTangoCharlie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118017577#Comment_118017577

I got the same email, hopefully this means they’re restarting the selection process soon. If FEAST results are only valid for 2 years, it’ll be in their best interest to continue with the testing before Feb 2022. Saves time/money etc…

Anyone have any word on the 2017/2018 classes resuming their training?

Thanks :)

Tristan100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015444#Comment_118015444

Not sure really. It just said they were contacting the candidates who previously passed the tests to see if their still interested.

Staunton96

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118013428#Comment_118013428

Wow. Did it sound like a definite restart or just looking for interest?

Thanks

Tristan100

Got an email today saying they're continuing with the recruitment process now.

CoisFharraige

Speed_Alive wrote: »

Disaster is probably a stretch...?

Well possibly disaster is a bad choice. The ACC was short staffed which would have caused delays this Summer.

Speed_Alive

Disaster is probably a stretch...?

CoisFharraige

Both groups of Trainee Controllers have been completely shelved (Even the ones meant to start on the job training in Shannon/Dublin). Extremely short sighted when Ballycasey was so short-staffed, this summer would have been a disaster for them if it was busy.

arccosh

From what I heard, there was some interest from LVNL and Eurocontrol in some of those dumped controllers.... don't know how many took the offer up though

Inquitus

An acquaintance of mine had just completed his NATS training and had been posted to a UK airport for further on the job training when Covid hit air travel, he has been paid a percentage of his wages for doing effectively nothing for the past number of months, but has now been drafted into their Cyber fraud department to work there until air travel picks up again. Its not part of his contract and he will be working 8:30 - 17:00 5 days a week until things change, obviously he is not in a position to refuse to do this random work he has been assigned as that would damage his standing within NATS, kind of a fish in a barrel in that regard! Buts that's what's going on with Trainee Controllers across the Irish sea. They canned all the trainees who had not completed the classroom portion and been assigned to an airport, so he was very lucky in that regard.

Shanee.

Speed_Alive wrote: »

Don't suppose anyone has heard anything from the IAA since the classes were dropped?

Sorry to bump an old thread, but no not heard a thing. Cant see the aviation sector picking up anytime soon either

Speed_Alive

Don't suppose anyone has heard anything from the IAA since the classes were dropped?

arccosh

must be a tough life not being able to follow sequential comments

AnRothar

Also, it's not speculation.

My knowledge of NATS terms and conditions would probably cover the back of a postage stamp so I will bow to your superior knowledge.

the only confusion would be if you didn't read the thread, and dropped in a read the final comment (which I suspect you did).

Afraid not, followed this tread from the start out of curiosity.

I know far too many "unimpressionable" people.

arccosh

It was a direct response to a query above it.... the only confusion would be if you didn't read the thread, and dropped in a read the final comment (which I suspect you did).
Also, it's not speculation.

AnRothar

67 now. Current controllers on the DB pension scheme are usually gone by 55 though. Most on the DC scheme still aim for the 55/60 mark.

If you are going to be discussing NATS terms and conditions its best you start a new thread.

Its not a good idea to be confusing poeople with what OTHER employers MAY be offering.

arccosh

67 now. Current controllers on the DB pension scheme are usually gone by 55 though. Most on the DC scheme still aim for the 55/60 mark.

Realistically though, even if you stuck around until that age, you would have more than likely progressed into another element of controlling (management,training, integration etc...) or been binned off actual controlling for health reasons, but there are still some (mostly airport controllers) who hang around on the radio until retirement.

A lot just get sick of controlling, it's great money,but definitely "a way of life" and up sticks and do contract work as and when they need cash around the world.

edit: there was some article in NATS in 17/18 for their oldest new hire controller, who was mid 40's/50's if I remember correctly

Inquitus

arccosh wrote: »

NATS hasn't an upper age limit in place

There is compulsory retirement I think @65 years of age, not sure if that has changed, it does mean that given they estimate the cost of training is £600k if you are someone who gets on the course at age 40+ you really need to be the best of the best, as the maths does not support the investment given the maximum number of years service you will be able to provide.