The video Zelensky played during his talk to Congress there a minuteago , is far more powerful than any words in showing the atrocities of this evil War .
Zelenskyy addressing congress right now.
when you see Nancy introducing him, it makes you understand how bad western states people actually are.
asking for new sanctions against all Russian politicians.
smart use of video by him, one thing, visuals for Americans speak louder than words. ‘Close the sky over Ukraine” is the message.
calling on Biden to be the leader of the world now and basically do something.
Biden isn’t there obviously.
That's why they made this trip to Kiev to lower this damage
Watching Zelensky's address to the US. He's just showed a video of the country before and then after invasion, with clips of the destruction, death and bodies. Very important. Russia will obviously edit it all out, but that will go around the world, making countries like India, etc uncomfortable
Russia ain't playing with a strong hand in regards to reversing sanctions or making them a condition of any "peace" deal.
It seems the negotiations on sanctions will only began when they leave Ukraine.
The Swedish neutrality thing simply wouldn't work for Ukraine. They have just been invaded by their much bigger neighbour. How could they defend themselves from Russia in future as a militarily neutral country with a small army? It's nonsense basically.
Well i highly doubt Zelensky will agree to that,but then again you never know
Yes that have occured to me as well,what about Donbass and Crimea and occupied land that Russia posses now
It's been a quite terrible two or three weeks for the Europe far right in fact. They were firmly in the Putin camp and anti-EU and anti-NATO.
There is a way to go on them but the Russians seem to have dropped the more outlandish deranged stuff. It is a way out for them if Ukraine agree to some version of neutrality.
I enjoy reading the Guardian to get a different perspective. I would consider myself fairly right wing economically and very socially liberal in the traditional sense (the state should not interfere in people's private lives as long as they aren't harming anyone else, not the modern authoritarian thought-police type of liberal). I noticed there the other week that George Monbiot (not a fan at all normally) had a piece about the Left's parroting of Russian propaganda:
He is very much on the Left so I was surprised to see this self introspection. There has been a damaging element on the Left that in their hatred of what they perceive as American Imperialism (TM), will be useful idiots for non western imperialism all over the world. I have to say I have a new found respect for him even if I wouldn't normally agree with his views.
As i see it,US is not going to negotiate anything regarding sanctions before Russia pulls out,so i guess Zelensky would have the upper hand there.
And Neutrality without security is a risky business when you have Russia as neighbour
Yeah every year the Russian military arrive at the Georgian border and move the fences further into Georgia while they have jets and helicopter gunships over head ,if they were to go in and take back territory now would be ideal being Putin is bogged down in Ukraine
Thats the latest polling on perceptions towards the EU. The EU is not going to come out of this conflict smelling of roses, given its previous attitude to Russia and energy security
a militarily neutral country with a small army?
What if Western support were to turn that into a massive army, close to a match with Russia in material if not men? Possibly accompanied by a massive Korean-style DMZ along the Russia-Ukraine border. Could the Ukranians be strengthened to a point where no rational Russian government would consider invading again?
Leftfield I know but it seems something out of the box will be required if a mechanism to reliably guarantee Ukranian security that is acceptable to Russia is to be devised.
The reason Russians are a Majority in Crimea is because initially Russian settlement in the late 19th century started to displace the Tartars who were finally forcibly removed after WWII
Oh I know they didn't have anything like the complete Donbas region, but Donetsk had fighting long before this invasion.
Of course Mariupol is different, but Putin might be a mind to claim we want what we hold in this ceasefire.
Why can't people understand that most of the ones traipsing through Eastern Europe or the ones crossing the Med in dinghies were not Syrian or Iraqi at all, but made up of all sorts.
And they were by huge majority young males.
I fail to understand how anyone can't comprehend the difference between the flood of people over the last couple of weeks that have crossed over from Ukraine into Poland, Slovakia, Romania and Moldova and the lads wandering into Greece and then up through the Balkans or those crossing from North Africa to Europe.
It doesn't take a rocket science to straight off notice the bloody differences.
Then add in the fact that Poland is now taking in their neighbours, people they have a lot more in common with, people they may even be related to, people fleeing from what Poles would see as a common enemy.
I think it's a certainty that Ukraine won't join NATO, but I wouldn't rule out joining the EU.
They want a fast track but that won't happen. There are years of requirements to get through in order to get into the EU and those won't be bypassed.
As regards their neutrality, they will likely go down the route of national service once this is over, following a similar model to the Swiss where basically everyone is a trained soldier and they are all given the necessary equipment to keep at home.
Will be costly, but I think its one way of ensuring their long term protection. Russia has gotten a bloody nose against the existing Ukrainian forces, it might think twice about going there again if their target is a lot better armed and trained.
I'm just talking about negotiations, nothing else. It is very much a basis for talks. I take the point on the bad neighbour but they've shown themselves to be a far less fearful military force than people imagined. Any questions on sanctions are not until this current phase has been addressed. My own feeling is that sanctions are what is making them take the talks all a bit more seriously. It's not even a month of sanctions and the country is on its knees.
Be honest though, a lot of what passes as 'hygiene products' are over-hyped, over-priced rubbish.
India, China couldn't care less about dead Ukrainians and their destroyed cities. These leaders care only about power.
Even without the sanctions the dynamics have changed.
Ukrainian terror has morphed into rage.
Video of a heavily pregnant lady with her hip sheered from the socket, cluster bombed children and the systematic execution of unarmed civilians will do that.
Please Putin leave us alone was 2 weeks ago, we are in a completely different place now. You can not undo the war crimes or the effect that has on a populous.
Remember when Kyiv was going to fall in 3 days, they are now on the counter offensive.
Absolutely remarkable.
Is this just a cynical PR stunt by the Russians in any event? Ukraine was already a neutral country and not a member of NATO and the EU (which begs the question what the brutal invasion was actually about).
Maybe a peace deal isn't the best thing - just keep going till every Russian in the invading army is dead and take back Crimea, then go into Moldova and sort out every last one of the Russian seperatists there too. Likely cooler heads than mine will prevail.
The trouble with the peace deal process is that it would include no prospect of charging or pusuing anyone for all the war crimes committed, and it wouldn't include a cent of financial compensation from Russia and their frozen resources and reserves; you can bet on that.
No "we're the civilised West"
No "we abide by the rules"
No playing nice
No magnanimous in victory
Shaft the phucker - that's obviously all he understands
True,but dont know what is going on between Ukraine and Russia on while negoiatiting.
War will always end up in hate regardless and this wont go away,this will stay on for generstions to come,all thanks to Putin.
I know but remember Putin lost in the 1 Chechen war and came back for revenge a second time,and leveled Grozny and killed 5000 children in the prosess.
We have no guarantees he wont do same to Ukraine
This is what Ukraine wants as things stand , lack of Nato membership doesn't mean they can't sign defense pacts with their neighbors ?
The hard left will always champion dictators and terrorist groups as along as they're belligerent towards the west and its allies. If they drop Putin, they have plenty of others to still cheer for - Hamas, Maduro, Iran, Assad etc. They won't change.
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