Polish, Chech and Slovenian PM will be going today to Kyin to meeting Zelensky. This is - BIG-.
Source from Polish TV webpage ( it's the counterpart of RTE): https://www.tvp.info/59049114/morawiecki-kaczynski-fiala-i-jana-jada-do-kijowa-na-spotkanie-z-zelenskim
Ukrainian kids ale already attending classes in Polish schools. The speed of this happening is unreal. I assume someone made a really good decision to ignore all rules and just act in the best interest of those kids.
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I agree with your general point. But the Germans,at least, still want their oil and gas, saying a boycott would hurt Germans more than Putin and it's not on the cards. Just wait, these sanctions will be rolled back in no time as soon as the west can justify it. Money trumps everything
I hope your correct.
Do you not think he is going on try?
When I saw the picture, I was sure it was photoshopped, because a person who commits such a bold act is doomed to suffer. If she is still alive, she probably will not be for long. The lives of all her family members are in danger. A person has sacrificed everything, and you, sitting in comfortable circumstances, are talking about suspicions. It is disgusting to read that.
The train with PMs entered Ukrainę a few minutes ago.
To an extent they do but EU gas issues will be resolved before winter and Russian oil they expect to free themselves from by year end. In that context it makes no sense to heap more pain on economies just as a short term punishment of Putin, especially as sanctions are beginning to bite very hard.
Not reported in any media I can find, so how about a link, as it sounds like Russian propaganda.
Unfortunately, they could just flatten it.
No, the Ukrainians would not surrender were that to happen.
They'd need a lot of ordinance for that but it would be the end of the Russian economy. The city size is bigger than Madrid despite having half the population.
You don't see courage very often, do you?
Ukrainian band that I follow (Stoned Jesus) are harshly critical of the TV presenter, saying it's 100% a stunt and an attempt at saving face. That these shows are pre-recorded so it wasn't this one presenter going rogue.
The world is full of independent agents (like Putin) with their own plans and timescales. It is not all run out of Washington by a combo of the US president + his cabinet and the CIA or some such!
Trump would have had no reason to disbelieve Putin that he was de-nazifying Ukraine, even if his own intelligence services were telling him it was rubbish.
4th batch of sanctions coming later today from EU. A ban on steel products, gas investment and on any ratings by EU credit ratings agencies among the measures.
I am convinced, and was advocating it from the start, that real intervention will happen. Estonian parliament calling for a no-fly zone is pretty big. Kasparov and Kozyrev are both several orders of magnitude more expert on Russia, the Russian mindset and Putin, than most people on the planet, let alone on this thread.
>Andrei V Kozyrev
@andreivkozyrev
Last week, I read critiques of my position on Putin’s rationality and possibility of nuclear war. Many are not realist enough about the nuclear threat or the right response. I argue in this thread that if we “blink” on Putin’s nuclear threat, we will increase the risk of WWIII. < https://twitter.com/andreivkozyrev/status/1503404009142423558
What the hell is that supposed to mean? The TV channel is covering its back in case Putin falls and they can say "actually, we do have a free media, look at what our editor did"? And the woman went along with it, happy to serve fifteen years in jail to make her employer look a bit better?
Makes no sense at all.
Their propaganda strategy is getting a bit desperate, it seems to be to bombard as much meaningless **** as possible in the hopes not that people will believe the individual stories, but that the overall sentiment of 'US/NATO/Ukraine bad' sticks.
On another note, the Polish, Czech and Slovenian PMs are currently in Ukraine on their way to Kyiv. Fair play to them for putting themselves in danger in the name of solidarity. It'll also be a blow to the Russian morale if they can just waltz in and out of Kyiv that easily:
If you bothered to look elsewhere, Ukrainian journalists online have already expressed doubt over the authenticity of the stunt.
Perhaps you could bother to post links...
But most people in Ukraine and Russia don't speak English and she made the English part the biggest . It seems her intended audience was the West, not the affected countries.
Fuckin hell, that's a bold move.
Wonder would the Russians target them
I took a look at their FB page. It also seems their position is that all Russians are complicit in Putin's criminal actions (and the prior actions of the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire against Ukraine), and so it's impossible for any Russian to be taken seriously in any condemnation or protest at all.
Now, I fully appreciate that they're sitting in a basement sheltering from Russian bombs dropping on them, and I'm sitting behind a keyboard, looking out on a lake and pondering the musings of a band I've never heard of, but I think that projecting collective responsibility onto the entire Russian population is both incorrect and unhelpful.
But it is very interesting to see their perspective on it.
No messing about with the Eastern European leaders. I can't see Johnson or Michael Martin busing it into Kyiv.
Apart from Andrei Kozyrev, I'm not aware of another former official of the Kremlin that has spoken out against the war.
Excerpt from the article:
Dvorkovich, who served at the Kremlin for 10 years, joins scores of chess leaders in decrying Vladimir Putin’s invasion. “My thoughts are with Ukrainian civilians,” Dvorkovich tells me. “Wars do not just kill priceless lives. Wars kill hopes and aspirations, freeze or destroy relationships and connections.”
Dvorkovich was chief economic adviser to President Dmitry Medvedev from 2012 to 2018, chair of the FIFA World Cup Russian organizing committee, and chair of Russia’s state-owned railways, a title he no longer holds and a history he leans away from. “I am not involved with any state-owned commercial companies” anymore, he tells me. “There are some non-commercial public activities I am involved in, mostly in the areas of education and innovation.” His father was also an international chess arbiter—responsible for ensuring that rules are adhered to—a family legacy meaningful to Dvorkovich and part of his incentive for courting the chess world’s support as he seeks reelection as FIDE president this year.
“I cannot say much now, but I will say one thing: I would never want to be in [Dvorkovich’s] place” as a Kremlin-linked, vocally antiwar FIDE president, says Zurab Azmaiparashvili, president of the European Chess Union, who sits on the FIDE council with him. Azmaiparashvili praises Dvorkovich’s chess stewardship. “The discomfort that he experiences is quite obvious” during their meetings, Azmaiparashvili notes, as Dvorkovich navigates the precarious path between his role at FIDE and his place as a former top Kremlin official. Azmaiparashvili, a Georgian national, “did not support” his bid for president in 2018 but now strongly backs him: “We all witnessed that he did [and is doing] a wonderful and effective job as FIDE President!”
Yeah, I understand that they're hurting. But saying all Russians are complicit is like saying all Irish people were complicit in throwing unmarried women into laundries.
I was responding to posts at me. The thread is about a variety of things.
Don't get carried away.
Look up "birds aren't real" and the back story to it. Very interesting, started as an obvious hoax to show how thick some people are, and like flat earthers, covid deniers and anti vaxxers it shows how there are people so stupid that yes they will answer that phone call to the Nigerian Prince and transfer money to them
It seems it took a major war and oil crisis for the UK to be forced to fix this. Big news I'd true for her family.
Did nobody ask Westlife yet for their input? I also tend to get most of my political opinions from various music bands.
Especially given their name suggests a commentary on life in the West.
I'm not sure whether those East 17 crowd are still on the go to give a strong political counterpoint for the sake of balance
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