Anyone sell calves yet?
I wouldn't have jerseys inside the gate here. The smallest guy was off a heifer so he just needs time. Surely there isn't too many lads renting land for calves.
Not for calves, but for beefing bullocks / heifers there would be & alot of lads that rear calves up this way bring them to the hook so it takes a right spread of ground to do that.
I don't agree with that at all. I've seen plenty of calves from JEX and they turned into Savage animals
Savage animals at what age and what costs for no profit.
I know a fella here that got AA out of JEX. Barely got meal and we're sold at 22months old for nearly 1200 just after Christmas. They just got grass and barely any at that. Didn't get alot of loving. In my experience it's the way the bull calves are treated in the first few weeks. Many farmers just give them enough to keep them alive and only concentrate on the heifers. This reflects on them further on in thier lives.
They'll make 700 euro in 12 months time. Stick to tom and jerry I'd say. Sadly there is no easy money anywhere in farming.
I kinda agree. Have a pretty good Jer/Her cross nearing two years - a good shape; didn't spot he was a Jer until he was in the place for a year.
Quite a few Jersey calves might be only 15% or 20% Jersey.
Calves " better " in bandon today. Mine made 35 to 85 in two groups. 5 weeks old and feckall difference between the groups. AA heifer the same age made 170. Saw fr singles off frx cows go to 100 then. Can't make sense of it
I think they were comparing it to Wednesday night which was atrocious. A neighbor no saled his fr bulls at 35 Wednesday night got 85 today. There was a local lad here who buys 200 calves every year in about 4 sales landed and only bought 22 calves.
Again an awful lot of young calves.
There was two new northern lads upset the whole thing. One lad just sat up the back bought out every thing he bid on. Must have bought 200 calved between them.
The lads buying them don't have a clue. They're so busy looking at each other they don't even look at the calf.
What about Roan heifers? 😀
At work one day a local jobber came up in conversation and another know it all listed off several "beef men" he had encountered down through the years that had went burst. The only common denominator between them in his opinion was that they had said jobber employed buying cattle for them. He maintained that the man in question spent all his time looking at what everyone else bid for and bought. When his own "turn" came he didn't look at the beast at all as he was too busy minding everyone else's business. Several more of us agreed that we'd never seen him to buy anything that looked value for money.
Calves on the absolute floor yesterday in macroom. A friend had 12 hex,aa and six bulls around 70kg at 180. There was cracking fr bulls at 40 quid. He put it well to me when he said there actually not that cheap.... When last du check the price of milk powder?
Milk powder gone up €9 a bag here since this time last year. Considering each calf should only need about 1.5 bags it’s not a massive extra expense per head. I think calves are the best value stock to be got at the minute. I bought a batch of white head heifers over the weekend and they’re €20 a head less than last year. The extra cost of the milk powder, and some of the ration cost, is covered in that.
On a side note, do any of ye feed natural yogurt to calves in with the milk replacer after buying them?
I think it's just lads find it easier to pay about 6 or 700 euro for them at 12 months. It looks like alot of people don't have the ability to rear calves.
Fr bulls 3wk old 20 euro in skibbereen. On buying them as yearlings you save money and work. Straw, hay, milk, calf nuts, grass, dealing with calf scour, training them to the fencer. If it takes 1400 to bring a fr heifer from calf to parlor then I suppose a fr bullock to 30 months would be more. I would prefer to pick up a few light weanlings in October for 2 euro a kg. Often seen Hereford and Angus heifers between five and six hundred euro in October.
Reports from Cootehill were same.
No boats, hopefully some will go this week
No, just no farmer s turned up just two dealers had it to themselves. The week before they a lad from Sligo and one from Donegal to upset things.
Was talking to a dealer today said he got 40 Hereford calves averaging 48 euros from carnew on Saturday
Had a friend in Carnew on Saturday said it was the worst calf sale for quality in the last 2 years and full of small jex calves by Hereford, speckled parks, Angus, out of something like 360 lots a total of 25 calves made over 250 euro. At the middle of the sale there was only 5 dealers left at the ring with none of the exporters present.
How does he sleep at night. He must have no conscience.
If they are JEx then its more than enough for them. I bought 3 hex together last year, 1 of them has 10% jex and he is a nice bit smaller than the other two now. I am guessing he ll be doing well to make a 300kg dw, where as his 2 buddies will cross 350kgs dw, @ €4.50 / kg that's €225 for d same investment. Without anything for the better grading of the 2 good lads.
One of the hex we bought last year is similar, she’s stacked on the weight but no height.
more worrying she has a terrible temperament. Never seen that in hex before.
That's a big difference in the value of two animals, both of which I presume landed on the farm at the same time and for similar money
It is and people need to realize that, now granted the smaller lad will probably be b ready to go 2 months before the 2 bigger lads, but that's just 2 months of grass feeding so there wouldn't be that big of an expense against that.
A sharp lad that could pick calves would make money so as the Good and the bad can be got for €5 to €50 now
Picking calves at 3 weeks in a mart is hard going. Something that’s 10% jex is near impossible to spot at that age.
I find we always get a spread of quality that balance out good one with the other, bit o wish I could be picking the top 1/3 all the time, some difference in thrive for the same conditions.
A jobber will pick out the good calf at the mart and stop him then ,Last week watching online one jobber numbers on his hand showed on the screen when he used start waving them around and sure enough when the calves came in for sale with them numbers ,they were bought bought at a knocked down price at least 60 euro less then poorer calves then them
It's very hard to pick out a good calf at 3 weeks, feeding by the lad selling them can make a big difference. There is a lad sells calves here, in the mart they always look top class. But they go back when you buy them. Said it to one of the mart drovers one day, he said that lad leaves the calf sucking a cow from they are born until he sells them. It buts a right bit of a shape & shine in them.