I have to laugh at the suggestion that Russia would have the capability to stand up to NATO without nukes. This war would be over in hours if the RuSSians didn't have nukes. NATO could take care of things from the air alone without having to put boots in the ground.
Only the most deluded fool would suggest otherwise based on the RuSSian militaries performance of the last two weeks. The RuSSians are great at killing civilians and bombing hospitals but put them up against a determined and organised military and they show what a paper bear they are.
In reality Putin has no out from this mess. Sanctions won't be lifted until RuSSia withdraws and I don't see that happening whilst the NovoFuhrer is still alive.
Sorry, are you another person that doesn't understand the meaning of =/=?
Greenpilot has an excuse, it's been literally explained since on this thread, so there is no excuse for your idiotic post.
On the UN site from some convention there seem to be 5 examples
(For some reason when copying and pasting the list is numbered when it was lettered on the original. I hate computers.
First 3 seem to be ticked handy enough. Denying Ukraine as a state and basically saying Ukrainians don't exist checks the box for a declaration IMO. Obviously some bearded paedo issuing a Fatwa against Israel or w/e doesn't need to be taken seriously til they have some means or plan to actually do something.
At the very least the annexation of land, destruction of cities and driving millions of people from their homes is some common garden ethnic cleansing though.
Pro-Russian support was definitely hugely overstated. They seem quite shocked that Ukraine is putting up such a spirited resistance and that everyone has rallied around the Ukrainian flag, this wasn't part of the script at all. A recurring theme in the Russian media is that they thought the country was deeply divided into competing factions and tribes and that there was no real Ukrainian identity.
Great to see the same gullible fools that turned up on the Covid denial threads are now here. How gullible can some individuals be?
I do think he is going to fall from the inside. Too much at stake financially and reputationally for Russians to endure long term.
I think many Western Analysts assumed the RuSSian military would have been on par with professional Western military forces. No one including me expected the complete and utter shitshow that was presented as a modern front line force.
As I said previously in this thread what the last two weeks have demonstrated is the RuSSians are the biggest military bullshitters in the world.
200 Russian tanks confirmed destroyed in just under 3 weeks.
How much was down to Zelensky's ammunition not a ride speech to both galvanise the Ukrainian people and invigorate western countries to supply weapons.
The tiptoeing around involvement should stop, in order to save lives, not wait for the scale of horror to escalate and then act. The intellectual cleansing of the 2 million has already started - the mayor kidnapped, the journalist likely kidnapped - the attack and theft of an aid convoy, the shooting of civillians everywhere, the targetting of civilian buildings everywhere, the use of thermobaric weapons, now perhaps even white phosphorous, 63 hospitals have been damaged, if not attacked outright.
The west should grow up and act now.
What should the west do?
Even if a nation is divided into different factions, history has shown about the surest way to unite them is for an outside force to attack them.
I wonder how many people in Poland are against the country’s membership of Nato.
easier to philosophize about American imperialism when you aren’t in the firing line
She spoke at an Irexit conference at the RDS in February 2018 at which Nigel Farage was the headline speaker. Other speakers included Hermann Kelly and John Waters.
You don't have to be a genius to work out that that whole conference and "movement" was dodgy as hell.
How would the even manage air changing in a bunker. It would need to be a hugely sophisticated air management system that would need constant maintenance. That’s if it’s even possible to filter nuclear fallout from air and still leave the required elements for breathing in it. I’d be sceptical that it’s possible over any significant length of time.
maybe storing air in huge tanks and some sort of replenish system for oxygen?
Bbc finding the one guy who speaks English on a bus and all he wants to talk about is legalising weed 😂😂🥰
” I’m ok I smoke weed …..420 yeah “ 😂😂😂
”I’m glad that’s all you’re worried about “
Apart from Russia in WWI. :D I've tried to read up on the Russian revolution half a dozen times but online the details seem a bit sparse and just when you think you know what's happening some other guy from a group that hasn't really been mentioned pops up and has massive support apparently with no explanation. 😅
I heard that (edit: the one this morning). No she wasn't challenged on her points whatsoever (I think same kinds of ones tomalak and other posters have made on this thread). In fairness, to do that credibly on the programme may have needed someone knowledgeable on Ukraine/Russia and politics + recent history of both with opposing views or to know she would come out with that so the host can be prepared, and put opposing views.
I didn't know who she was but if she was an "Irexit" supporter does not surpise me. She started getting a bit shouty about "the usual EU fan boys" (?) risking Irish "neutrality" - didn't have a clue who/what exactly she was on about.
She was also seemed quite confident that the Poles and the Balts etc have nothing at all to fear from Russia in future, and any talk of EU common defence etc. is hysteria and a poorly disguised attempt to prime the pump for the military industrial complex. Am sure they will all be relieved to hear that from the mouth of someone living fairly safe & sound on an island quite far from Russia, and can sleep soundly now!
If you come across that again I'd like a link. :P
It could just as easily be the opposite though, the chances of him being removed from power without being killed are getting lower and lower and if he feels threatened enough he might just retreat to a bunker and make sure that none of his enemies survive
Nuclear fallout is a little bit overblown. It certainly an issue in the days following a nuclear attack. However, eventually the radioactive dust will settle. The real problem with a nuclear war is the millions of tons of soot from burning cities that will go into the upper atmosphere causing low temperatures in the summer and for potentially years afterwards.
The majority of the global population won't die from nuclear fall out. Unfortunately it will be starvation that takes them.
Agreed. In a full on nuclear winter and air filtration system (you're going to need engineers) issues how many more could be supported for 5-10 years? They'd be emerging to a Mars like terrain. It'd be a half life until the inevitable end.
Interesting development… I haven’t seen anything about this in the U.K. media
Given how badly the military kit was maintained I have a feeling the Russian nuke bunkers could be in rag order as well.
A $700 million super yacht isn't going to protect you from fallout Vlad ☢️
@growleaves do not post in this thread again
Orwellian stuff. No one is exaggerating when they describe Putin and apparatus as the new Hitler.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-boris-johnsons-friendship-with-evgeny-lebedev-deepened-despite-mi6-concerns-56bl5hklb
NYT journalist reported to have been shot dead
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