Poland could declare war, anex Lviv... fly MIG's there... Ukraine "fight" and could annex it back, ceasefire, peace talks... all in 24 hours and now they have captured Polish MIGs...
might aswell fight Russia with their own tactics
For those pushing for a Major intervention with Russia, be careful what you wish for. Nato are playing the long game, because it's crucial in order to save many, many more citizens, countries and societies. It's the most dangerous tightrope they've ever walked. One wrong move and the Chernobyl disaster ( and most of us remember the fear that caused across Europe over those horrendous weeks and months) will look like child's play.
If the West are afraid of Russia blowing up chernobyl or launching Nukes, then they have lost this war to Russia. I don't agree with NATO playing the long game. I think the longer this war goes on the more NATO will have to get stuck in, it may soon escalate to that and they may have no option when Putin comes knocking on Polands door or Baltic states. I worry for Moldova and Georgia after this war on Ukraine. They are on their own and they know it.
Speaking of crisps - anyone who uses sunflower oil might want to stock up. Ukraine produces 53% of world output and there might not be a crop this year.
Yeah it's the Ukraine thread in Politics that's gone to pot, totally overrun with trolls banned from this one
I agree. Too many Call of Duty players with a warped perception of the destructive nature of conflict. No more mature discussion on the issues and too much tit for tat childish bickering from a generation that does not have the faintest idea of the real world out there. Those of us who lived through the 80's know only too well the difficulties and fear during the Cold War. If any of them witnessed the wanton destructive power of Russian Artillery on Damascus and Alleppo, they would soon change their tune. Russia does not care about civilians, heritage or heritage buildings, schools, hospitals etc. Everything gets flattened. Most of these have never fired a weapon, have never seen the looks of total hopelessness on the faces of people who's dreams and aspirations have been literally reduced to Rubble. In Damascus in 2010, I met a Rose grower ( the flowers are used in Turkish Delight) who had a thriving business outside the city. I ended up writing a story about him. I met him again at the Direct Provision Centre in Ballaghaderreen years later, on his own, family and business destroyed, living on €20 per week in a tiny hotel room. A shell of a man. Everything he had loved now obliterated.
Interestingly enough the dissemination of misinformation by the Russian Embassy in the UK is firing away and has already come under scrutiny with Twitter having to delete their content for contravening Twitter rules.
Their efforts to paint the pregnant woman injured in the Russian bombing of the maternity hospital as being a 'fake' is possibly some of the single most cowardly and pathetic efforts at trolling on that platform I've seen to date.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ukraine-linda-thomasgreenfield-twitter-instagram-london-b2034234.html
This thread is fine, it produces a lot of useful information. In fact some may see it as too successful and want to control it.
Russia committing war crimes, threatening nuclear war after being sanctioned and causing issues at Nuclear reactors... and some are baffled we don't want to see pro Russian propaganda?
What next, 'let's see it from Hitler's POV?' FFS.
These mobile missile launchers make a big difference
How to defeat Russian BTGs
https://www.benning.army.mil/armor/eARMOR/content/issues/2017/Spring/2Fiore17.pdf
It's estimated by serious observers that the regime has stolen almost a trillion dollars worth over the last two decades. Putin himself is estimated to be worth about 200 billion.
Bien seems foolish to me .He keeps broadcasting weakness by saying we must avoid WW3
Yep. Literacy has never been a strongpoint of the dunce trolls.
The amount of times the link actually disagrees with the diarrhea they dribble is hilarious. Generally they just about manage to read (and understand maybe half) the headline.
labaik I had assumed the poster was being sarcastic?
Sort of like the proposal Putin put to Tusk years ago, Don't see it happening for a number of reasons.
False information should always be banned, it's why swathes of Russians believe Putin is right to have engaged in his 'special operations'.
Do you think Goebbels should have been allowed to preach his hateful lies?
And, as I have you, you never replied to say sonething disparaging about Putin.
This may be easier for you to say (less consequences) - Do you agree with Putins Action in Ukraine since they sent troops into Ukraine?
What stands out from all this, everyone in Putin's circle seems to be absolutely loaded beyond belief along with their mistresses and daughters and anyone else connected.
If Lavrov, can give money to his wife who has the money to purchase her daughter a 4 million pound flat in Kensington his real wealth must be insane.
Surely the Russian people must wake up to this. It's their wealth.
Army generals and politicians worth tens of , even hundreds of millions. It's rotten.
That's actually how they work at the troll farm in St. Petersburg. They work in pods of three in the same discussions.
https://www.rferl.org/a/how-to-guide-russian-trolling-trolls/26919999.html
Burkhard: Our department commented on posts. Every city and village in Russia has its own municipal website with its own comments forum. People would write something on the forum -- some kind of news -- and our task was to comment on it. We did it by dividing into teams of three. One of us would be the "villain," the person who disagrees with the forum and criticizes the authorities, in order to bring a feeling of authenticity to what we're doing. The other two enter into a debate with him -- "No, you're not right; everything here is totally correct." One of them should provide some kind of graphic or image that fits in the context, and the other has to post a link to some content that supports his argument. You see? Villain, picture, link.
RFE/RL: So all three of you sit together, agreeing on who's going to do what in this performance?
Burkhard: Yeah, that's the kind of absurdity that goes on. We don't talk too much, because everyone is busy. A single comment isn't supposed to be less than 200 characters. You have to just sit there and type and type, endlessly. We don't talk, because we can see for ourselves what the others are writing, but in fact you don't even have to really read it, because it's all nonsense. The news gets written, someone else comments on it, but I think real people don't bother reading any of it at all.
So in this way, our little threesome traverses the country, stopping at every forum, starting with Kaliningrad and ending in Vladivostok. We create the illusion of actual activity on these forums. We write something, we answer each other. There are keywords, tags, that are needed for search engines. We're given five keywords -- for example, "Shoigu," "defense minister," "Russian army." All three of us have to make sure these keywords appear all over the place in our comments. They can't even be conjugated or declined. Sometimes it's very hard to write when you can't use any declensions!
This is just another example of RUSSIANS COWARDLY SHELLING CIVILIAN TARGETS. Am I right in saying this is actually a famous hotel in Chernihiv DESTROYED BY COWARDLY RUSSIAN SHELLING.
There’s a couple of unthinkable reason why they might pull back forces, I really hope it’s just to regroup.
The doctors and nurses who do the work are funded by....
I dont think anyone said the mascot Ronald Mc Donald is staffing the 300+ Ronald Mc Donald houses worldwide...for one thing I am not sure his red wig would be hygienic...
It's simple in my mind: politicians are sold to the highest bidder, and US Energy companies have the most money. Buy the politicians, buy the country.
Likewise with the rise of ultra-rich tech companies, lots of politicians are owned by them as well.
Their crowning achievement was the Citizens United decision, which until undone will affect American society forever.
It's been very refreshing to live in an EU country like Ireland after growing up in the US and seeing what it's like to deal with a society and infrastructure that are not wholly corporate owned. Just got back from a trip to London, no problems or surprise charges on my Vodafone phone. A trip to the US a few years pre-Covid, I couldn't use one phone throughout the freaking Seattle area because it was always 'roaming.' And, here I have a phone, 20 euros/month and I get more than enough data and texts and calls. In the US I doubt there are any plans like that, at all.
I could go on and on; certainly since GWB the US has been wholly corporate owned and it impacts daily lives.
Are Russia pulling back forces as they cannot afford to lose many more? They need reinforcements from the central and eastern parts(hopefully this will allow the Japanese to retake the Kuril Islands). Syrians will just be cannon fodder.
Seems 130,000 conscripts in Russia will be called up on April 1st. Ah well at least Tatu made lesbianism more acceptable. Don't know what all the childless Babushkas are going to do.
That's the weirdest response I've every heard.
Protest in Melitopol to effect the release of kidnapped mayor.
Russian convoy repelled advancing to Brovary a couple of days ago. Russian general killed. Russian tank convoy fleeing with tail between their legs.
Russians unable to take any area of note.
How many energy bars to sustain a Ukrainian fighter for 1 year?
Kiev, Sumy, Konotop, Kharkiv, Mariupol(incredibly), Chernikiv, Mykolaiv all still in Ukrainian control and the many of these areas are ethnic Russians.
Russians are good at cowardly shelling civilian areas, maternity hospitals and shoe factories. Kidnapping the mayor in Melitopol(it took an armed unit to carry this out).
Judging by reports the Ukrainians have defeated the Russians in Mariupol and the Russians are awaiting more cannon fodder.
Russians unable to take any cities. Forces are paper thin. Supply lines stretched. Is this as far as they go?
Guerilla tactics by Ukrainians are effective and increasing daily.
No. He didn't prove your point at all. Don't be ridiculous
It’s not Ronald McDonald helping the kids- it’s the doctors and nurses that do that work- you’ve just proved my point
Is just like politics.ie back in the day. The posters supportive of the Islamic Brotherhood and hard left parties worked shifts using the same username