Amazing Putin is admitting to this BS. He just looks weak... BUT, now that he has admitted it, are all the conscripts about to go home?
Shur, it's only a special operation, nothing nasty like a war. Why would they be needed?
Ukraine to NATO for the last 2 weeks, and probably for however long this all lasts...
Slightly inconvenient that a large number of them won't ever be going home.
I wonder how they spin that one.
"Where is my beloved son, O Great and Strong Fuhrer?"
"Ehhhh....fascists! Drugs!! Lenin!!! NATO!!!!"
"That's your answer for everything."
"Have this traitor fall out a window".
Implementing a no-fly zone would directly trigger confrontation between Russia and NATO forces.
As bad as what's happening in Ukraine is, why make it infinitely worse - potentially civilisation-ending - by implementing this no-fly zone?
It's the stuff of insanity.
Putin runs a mafia gang that steals the wealth of the Russian people and uses lies and propaganda to shift the blame onto outsiders for all the woes of the Russian people. Putin appeals to the nationalist who suffers from lost of empire that happened after the fall of the USSR. You can like Russians, their wonderful culture and achievements and hate their evil fascist government at the same time.
Some interesting comments
they will just hand over the urn
I can understand why NATO wouldn't implement one, but I can also understand why Ukraine is asking. There are no good answers regarding what NATO should do, only less sh*t ones.
It's interesting that people are focussing on KIA as casualties, if that figure is up to 9000 then the amount wounded has to be way in excess of that, somewhere around 10-20 times more, unless the Russian suck at keeping their wounded alive, which is possible. That's a lot of men to lose.
Both Russia and Ukraine will need to rotate their combat troops soon, or they'll wear out, maybe the Russians are hoping that the Ukranians can't and that will degrade their ability to fight
One of the few interviews I have seen him do in English:-
"If you are united against the Nazis and this terror, you have to close. Don't wait for me ask you several times, a million times. Close the sky"
I think they are holding out for a country to break ranks with nato and come to help ukraine
NATO not being able to act is probably the only factor that Putin anticipated correctly pre invasion.
Would actually make an interesting situation, if there was a retaliation in such a scenario would all of NATO act in accordance with it's rules and defend that nation, or, would it try and distance itself from the break away nation?
Funny thing is that's probably an ideal scenario for NATO (well the bigger nations anyway)
I doubt. Netherlands would betray.
How's the war going Burger Face ? The same war you asserted to me in an abusive fashion, would absolutely not happen.
Do you have anything to offer to this discussion or do you just argue, abuse and troll ?
Are we expecting chemical now?
I don't know. I'd kind of miss the ballet, the music, Stravinsky, Tschaichovsy, the writings of Nabakov. I hope you don't want to burn their works to ashes just because they are Russian.
I had assumed, and I could be way wrong on this, that A5 of the NATO charter is more about defence than attack. Like, is there an argument not to invoke that article if a member state attacks first, or is the being attacked thing absolute?
As it is, with the supplying of weapons and how that could be interpreted as provocation, we may end up seeing a debate about just that.
They are young conscripts who phoned their girlfriends from land lines in Ukraine. They lack discipline because they are not real soldiers.
You just wonder like -what this achieves? Aside from a notable few - is anyone taking notice of this? Is this *******T changing minds? Are companies going to see that and say
'Well that changes things' - and go back to business??
Russia’s delegation at peace talks with Ukraine “will not concede a single negotiating point,”
Reiterating the same point, so what exactly is the point of the peace talks? Russia continues to bomb innocents
So how does this end?
Is there any possible compromise that would suit both parties?
If Putin and his government were somehow removed, it's very unlikely that they would be replaced by a pro western government anyway, and then it's back to the days of the cold war all over again?
From the guardian:
"Russian’s delegation at peace talks with Ukraine “will not concede a single negotiating point,” reported a RIA news agency today.
From Reuters:
Russia’s delegation at peace talks with Ukraine “will not concede a single negotiating point,” RIA news agency cited negotiator Leonid Slutsky as telling a television station on Wednesday.
The two sides have carried out three rounds of talks since the start of the Russian invasion. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is scheduled to have talks in Turkey on Thursday with his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba
Russia is an astonishingly rich country, as you allude to, in terms of culture. Great interest and knowledge amongst ordinary people regarding the arts. Here at home most people barely read or know anything about classical music or theatre anymore. We are philistines.
We don't need a pro-western government at this stage, just a non-mental one.
Who would be most likely do you think?
Poland?
The basic gist of it is he's asking the strong military powers of the west for help to stop the violence against his people and they are replying :
"We would help, but we're too scared"
Putin doesn't seem to have much of an issue having people poisoned with nerve agent. Unfortunately nothing is off the table with that regime.
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