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How long until we see €2 a litre and will it push more to EV's faster?

[Deleted User]

I'm guessing that we'll see €2 prices at the pumps by May/Jun.

Brent crude just passed $90 a barrel, the highest its been since 2014. Its also showing no signs of slowing down and will break through $100 a barrel before the end of the month in all likelihood.

As to whether this will push more people to move to EV's at a faster rate, I think thats pretty much a certainty

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[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118750588#Comment_118750588

For filling LPG the process is to screw the adapter (should be in the glovebox) into (onto?) the little valve on the car. Then get the pump and twist it onto the adapter. Most garages with LPG tend to be the type with people around who are happy to help. If there's a conversion place nearby that sells the gas it'd be worth a visit, they'll help give him the lowdown and (it varies) they can also be the cheapest for the fuel. Ya have to have some petrol in the tank but even at today's prices and in winter it was a fiver a month or less in petrol for me.

For running on LPG it couldn't be simpler, just press the LPG button. You don't have to do anything else. It'll blink green to indicate it's waiting to switchover to LPG and will stay green once the gas is flowing. Next time you start the car it blinks green until it switches from petrol to LPG stays solid green. It takes longer to switch in the winter because components need to be a bit warmer for the gas to flow/lubricants to have worked through engine.

I think, though could be imagining it, the car seems to pull better at high revs with LPG but day-to-day there's no real difference in driving experience. There's also a little ticking noise from the gas pump/nozzle/injectors but you need to be stationary with the engine running to hear it and even then it's very quiet.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118749252#Comment_118749252

And is he pumping it out of the ground himself? How does he know there'll be no fuel?

Pussyhands

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118751284#Comment_118751284

He shopped around a couple of suppliers. Said price is going much much higher next week and in a couple of weeks won't be got at all.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118751104#Comment_118751104

Food production is subsidised so that farmers income is protected while allowing them to supply food below true cost to compete with lower cost economies.

Current situation calls into question the EU set aside grant paid to farmers to stop producing grain as it was only being added to an existing mountain of unwanted cereal. Pity EU doesnt have such a mountain now!

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118751352#Comment_118751352

I refer to my original comment so.

Larbre34

Talking to my brother-in-law in Florida earlier, he's spitting bullets over it costing him $60 to fill his Ford Expedition last night, at $4.20/US gallon for Premium gasoline. Blames Biden of course.

I explained to him we were now paying the equivalent of $8.25/US gallon and that kinda shut him up.

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118750838#Comment_118750838

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118752062#Comment_118752062

It’s true though, they go mental over there with high “Gas” prices - massively politically sensitive. Which is good for us as they are our only hope to reduce oil prices. Biden is scrambling around madly for new/existing sources to increase supply.

Our government in particular have been woeful when it comes to energy security. Constantly putting the cart before the horse. Done reasonably well on wind energy but closing down peat production for example was and is idiotic without a secure alternative nailed down.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118752810#Comment_118752810

closing down peat production for example was and is idiotic without a secure alternative nailed down.

This was as a result of court cases. The govt wanted to keep them open but they lost the case

frosty123

Wish I bought a hybrid now, instead of a gas guzzling hot hatch ☹️

[Deleted User]

Looks like Putin is about to block exports of certain commodities to certain countries. Not a lot of details yet though

https://www.forexlive.com/news/putin-signs-a-vague-degree-on-limiting-russia-exports-20220308/

Atlantic Dawn

Looks like 20 cent coming off excise duty from midnight tomorrow which sadly will probably just mean staying at €2 a litre.

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2022/0308/1285127-fuel-costs/

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/government-to-reduce-excise-on-petrol-and-diesel-by-20c-to-ease-cost-of-energy-crisis-41425573.html

road_high

That’ll be gobbled up by rounding up. VAT cut would be more useful as it’s obviously a %

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753428#Comment_118753428

Just saw that.. too little too late TBH. €2 or €1.80, it's still a massive cost. All they've really done is rolled things back about a week

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753471#Comment_118753471

There won’t be any real reduction at the pumps I’d bet- they’ll hold the current prices. The €2 psychological barrier has been passed now.

All this useless “government” ever do is react (late) to crises. They never lead or foresee anything at all

magicbastarder

my (german) boss was telling me that at his local filling station, petrol is now €2.15 a litre. diesel is €2.10.

bop1977

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753532#Comment_118753532

Well that didn’t last too long. 20c off petrol and 15c off diesel.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/excise-duty-on-petrol-to-be-cut-by-20c-and-by-15c-on-diesel-to-ease-burden-of-rising-energy-costs-41425573.html

walshtipp

These prices will surely get more people into electric cars. I met an e-car driver yesterday and he was very smug about owning one with the current fuel prices 😑

saabsaab

Will it be passed on at the pumps?

Buford T Justice

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753598#Comment_118753598

This is completely pointless and is a waste of time by the Gov't. I filled my van on the 3rd (5 days ago) for 169.9 and it's now 199.9. so 15C off that is a meaningless mealy mouthed effort which will be undone in a manner of days.

There seems to be serious price gouging going on here. For the last however many years there was 10cpl difference between the price of diesel and petrol. Now magically the price of diesel is the same as petrol. Can someone explain how that isn't greed?

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753612#Comment_118753612

That’s nice for him but most people can’t afford one. The people that need the saving the most usually

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118749896#Comment_118749896

This might amaze you but we actually already do tillage in this country. Not a lot but we do grow crops.

Bet if the price was right we would see a lot more grown regardless of the weather.

Atlantic Dawn

Going for a Sunday drive now has an air of flashiness off it.

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753674#Comment_118753674

I filled the car earlier (typical - but I got a text from DCI saying they were increasing it by 15c after midnight) and diesel was actually more than petrol (1.99 vs 1.97)

combat14

government have to act this is a crisis at this stage..

once people here look at their heating, electricity, fuel and other bills incessentantly rising massively... wages stagnant .. we will start to see spending on non-fuel / essential related expenses stop and we are staring a serious recession in the face...

Mr. teddywinkles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747202#Comment_118747202

Dont forget the sulky boss

bear1

So reports are a 20c decrease in petrol and 15c in diesel. So that's what about 1.80 for petrol and 1.85 for diesel? Assuming it's 2e everywhere.

I don't think that's anywhere near enough to help people. Why oh why can't they just cap fuel at even 1.50 for both and still no word if they are reducing the excise on heating oil.

At 2 euro a litre, they're taking 1.20.. and yet they hand back max 20c. Sound. 10% reduction

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753772#Comment_118753772

Don't forget that the taxes gained from the sales of fuel pay for a lot of services. They can only do so much

bear1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753787#Comment_118753787

How so? In a month it has jumped 40c more or less.

They could easily reduce it back down to what it was a few weeks ago if they wanted to.

Ubbquittious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118753787#Comment_118753787

It pays for overpriced consultants and software "solutions"