He had a certain fan base here and some weren't gone on him.
He disappeared very fast last year and now he's about to sue Twitter.
Not to mention the main topic for a while a few days ago about how he was supposed to have supplied her with alcohol.
I can't speak for the allegation of teacher at the time, nor of the girl being forced into a relationship, but the oral rape allegation is one the girl made herself online.
And it has not been retracted.
You ask where, when it happened. Did anyone see you enter or leave the place. You know all this.
How does that prove she defamed him?
Remember there is no criminal complaint in this case.
The woman released a serious of allegations which weren't retracted or denied.
I don't think anyone here is making up new allegations. Just discussing the allegation that were made against him on a public social media platform.
Mods wouldn't tolerate anything defamatory being posted.
Gusser, you have been asked a number of times, do you know what age she was, or are you just speculating that she was 17? If she was 20 and still going to school, would you have a problem with this situation.?
You keep going on about this, do you actually know what age she was?
I also heard he shot JFK and he alone was responsible for the origin of the coronavirus outbreak.
Unless he denies these, we can take it that there is some credibility to those statements of fact.
Which she removed from social media yes?
I think we all have a good idea what went on Dav. If she were 20 it would have been clarified. I can guarantee you.
Posters trying to twist stuff here. My position on it is clear and always has been.
Did she remove them or were they removed?
Your position is not clear.
You keep bringing up the fact she was a schoolgirl.
You say that it is creepy for a 27 year old man to have sex with a 17 year old schoolgirl. Would an 18/19 year old schoolgirl be ok in your opinion? Would it be less creepy for him to have sex with a 17 year old who had done her leaving cert? If not, why is the fact that she is a schoolgirl mentioned? If so, what age would a man have to be for it not to be creepy to have sex with a 17 year old? In that case, would you like the age of consent increased?
You presume the worst about mcdermott because you dislike him. Almost every one of your posts bring up that he is woke or a feminist. That's understandable but don't act like anyone is twisting your words. You clearly dislike the man (as do I) but you are purposely using emotive language like "barely legal" and "schoolgirl" in order to make it seem even worse than it is. A girl who was over the age of consent who "misremembered" her age in order to frame McDermott as a statutory rapist.
Either way, why were they removed?
Gusser, you are admitting right there that you don’t know what age she was.
You are purposely twisting this conversation to focus on her age, when you admit you don’t know her age. You can’t guarantee me, or anyone else anything, because you don’t know. What we know is that she has confirmed she was over the age of consent when they met, and that she falsely claimed she wasn’t.
If this case goes to court (McDermott v Twitter), I'm sure all the details of where he went, what he did, what age she was etc. will come out in court.
I'd say there's no hope of this getting to court.
Not necessarily, its not a case against him, he is taking it against Twitter and how they handled the admitted false accusations and shite that followed.
I don't think it works like that.
It's not up to Twitter to defend the content of the post or prove anything within.
It's up to the plaintiff to prove he was defamed, which he now has in reality.
What the nature of the case against Twitter is, I have no idea.
Best of luck to him suing twitter.
If Twitter decide to robustly defend their position, they'll throw the kitchen sink at McDermott. They'll probably use the defence of Truth along with the defences listed here.
http://www.cearta.ie/2016/09/reform-of-the-law-of-defamation-the-defence-of-innocent-publication-muwema-v-facebook-part-2/
They'll pick apart the details and establish which parts are true and which parts are not true. And McDermott mightn't like that. Even if he did absolutely nothing illegal, there may be details which are 100% true and they might portray him in a negative light.
Twitter might not win on the Truth aspect alone, but it might help them and may also lessen the damages should McDermott win any.
I saw the original allegation on Reddit at the time and a sexual assault was mentioned on that. That to me is far more problematic than the girl's age. It's not that long ago that teenagers did their leaving cert and moved away from home when they were 17. It's young by today's standards but not out of the ball park.
The sexual assault allegation, and MC Dermott being convicted in the court of Twitter are bigger issues IMHO. I can't stand him but I'm uneasy with how he and Al Porter lost their jobs over allegations on social media. Maybe the allegations are true but who's to say? Anyone can sit down and type up a made up story, then release it into the wild.
that still has nothing to do with the other parts of the story, kitchen sink or not
we don't even know the particular of the case he brought
none of the other details matter, it will no doubt be based on how they dealt with his requests after the fact
Depends on the nature of his case.
If they erred on on their own legal obligation this case won't see the inside of a court room and will be settled between law firms.
The nature of his case against Twitter can only one of two things.
Do we know if he asked Twitter to take down the statements and they refused?
That's a possibility but Twitter are a large company and have vast resources so I would expect them to defend this case and if they have a loss, it's no big thing for them, they can afford it. But if they have a victory, it'll put off others from bringing them to court.
My thinking is that this case won't get as far as court, either for the reasons I mentioned or the reasons you mentioned and neither Twitter nor McDermott will make any further statements on it. It'll just fade into the background and be forgotten about.
No, you'd rather defend a 27 year old man messaging a schoolgirl instead.
Pretty sure repeating dodgy allegations without some proof behind them is still not legit, could be problematic
There will be dollar signs in his eyes reading this thread so!!
I know what the case likely is, but the scope of this will be limited, so what they might bring up in their defense would also be
this is not ally mcbeal after all
If they have a loss of course it would be a big deal for them, it would open them up to other suits, its not just an individual case that they care about
In fact they are more likely to settle than risk a loss, that's how it usually goes
Here we go again! 🙄
I don't believe that people should spread false allegations about anybody on social media. You seem to be very emotional about this whole thing. It's someones basic rights you have no problem trampling over. That's what I defend. People's rights
I disagree. If people have grounds to bring a case against Twitter, they don't need to wait for the result of this case. They can plow ahead now if they have the will and the resources.
You can't also say for certain that the scope will be limited. It's open to the defence to use every and any lawful tactic to defend the case so they might pry into the details of the relationship etc. to establish what is fact and what is defamatory. I'd fully expect them to do that.
I don't know the stats for defamation cases actually seeing the inside of a courtroom but in personal injury cases only about 5% of cases get inside the court. I'd guess a higher amout of defamation cases make it to court but that's only a guess. I must do a bit of research.
McDermot wont bring this to court. He's hoping for a pay off. Twitter will call his bluff.
Id imagine this will go quiet until Eoghans PR people decide on his attempt at a comeback.
She didn't lie. It's the incel mantra to paint the girl/woman as the culprit in all these types of cases. It's always the girls fault. She was asking for it or she led him on or she was lying etc etc.
For incels it's #believenowomen.
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