I heard someone once say that WW1 was even more disastrous than it needed to be because it was 19th century tactics meeting 20th century technology, ergo the sides had to get in trenches because they hadn't quite figured out how to conduct open warfare with planes, machine guns and tanks able to mow down everything in sight.
By the same token, Stalingradesque tactics would be 20th century tactics meeting 21st century technology. You can't just pound a city, a world city no less, and do that for months. Not without serious consequences. The world can see what you're doing because there is an eye in almost everyone's pocket. The strained relationships that it would cause, and already is causing, with potential and former economic partners around the world, makes every shell fired a hit on your own domestic situation, as your country sinks deeper and deeper into recession and its credit rating goes in the shítter.
It's disgusting, but it's war, what do you expect
I've just watched Threads again and now I'm moving on to The Day After. The American movie is like Dallas/Dynasty with Nuclear missiles. Threads is a bit like how it will actually be if it did happen. Obviously I'm enjoying a few beers. Lads, ya gotta chill sometime.😀
Later next week, I'll be onto Independence Day. Putin will be the Alien overlord. Similar eyes anyway!
Again, is there some issue with people not understanding the word "relatively"?
In the context of "The West" (which the Russian army was implied to potentially threaten in the conventional sense) 44m is a relatively small population.
Plus he is sending Russian children out to the front lines. Kids of 16-17 in sh1tty uniforms with sh1tty equipment, surviving on sh1t rations while him and his gangster cronies run their country into the ground. Saw a thing about the corruption in Russia yesterday -- massive overpriced bids for major infrastructure projects going to his cronies. A line from it about the oligarchs stuck with me "they would waste 10 dollars to steal one." And they dress themselves up as patriots defending Russia? They are plundering its resources and wasting its youth.
Goodness me, I didn't realise the country was that close to going bankrupt until I saw that chart (can't happen soon enough IMO.....the "regime" deserves every single ounce of bad luck going and much more on top).
Anything that effects Russian thinking in a negative way - is a positive. Yes the French are more than likely not going to do anything, prudence demands that Russia monitor them. Divert some resources -
ANYTHING that effects the Russians even slightly is a good thing
I'm not so sure. Yes the Ukrainians almost certainly won't defeat the Russians militarily, they don't have to. They just have to make it costly enough and painful enough until external political factors force the Russians to stop the attack and withdraw. That's enough for Ukraine to claim the win.
The NVA/VC never defeated the US forces in Vietnam, but the US left all the same. In fact, one of the biggest tactical defeats that war, the Tet Offensive, turned out to be a victory strategically, because that was when a large proportion of U.S. society and news media became convinced that the war couldn't be won.
MANBearPig
Half man, half bear, half pig. The only thing Putin fears
I expect any man worth his salt not to shoot children and unarmed women. Not much to ask. It's not like they pose a threat. Quite a flippant dismissal if I may say so.
Lot of assumptions about the capability of the Russians, there. Modern planes and tanks are not easy to build or service, you can't just **** them away to have the enemy use up a MANPAD or NLAW projectile, you're trading something that cost in millions or 10s of millions just so the other guy uses up something that costs thousands AND is getting for free and gratis. Same with men, it takes a lot of man hours to train pilots, tank crew, air defence. This ain't Stalingrad where you can just send in waves of human bullet sponges.
what are the chances head the ball in Moscow would strike Chernobyl with a hypersonic 10kT tactical nuke with a high pressure system around Belarus?!
Moody’s downgrades Russia’s credit rating to Ca-ck
Zero and less than zero.
Didn't exactly look convincingly real, but fun to watch anyway.
lol…
This is pretty ominous.
How many lives will be lost :(
Shogyus mother was born in Ukraine. He may have a personal resentment towards this war.
If anyone can be tapped up to overturn Putin, he seems to be the most likely to step up to the plate.
Would Shogyu be more reasonable and less extreme then Putin or just a different version ?
None of which is true, the Ukrainians are receiving supplies day in and day out , hundreds of tons a week ,that's not going to Stop , unless putin lashes out at Poland and well we know what happens then 30 Nato countries return the favor ,
Russia isn't just going to just start building tanks and new fighter jets and bombers that's doesn't happen over night,at the current rate of losses in aircraft it will take them years to replace ,and it the Nato response to send aircraft and more air2 air misssles Russia will lose even more aircraft ,and convoys Russia can only transport supplies in long , slow road convoys adding to the other convoys already bogged down , Russia controls some roads but that's about it .
Ukraine controls everything else
Apparently one of the better maps around at the moment
Me shouting 'good!'
he'll be poisoned before he gets any chance of leading a coup
was listening to the irish times podcast earlier this week, had a guy on who was saying, historically, it takes 3% of the population on the streets for change to happen. of course, every situation is different, but unfortunately, we're nowhere remotely in that ball-park yet (approx. 4 - 5 million). but it's a very quickly changing scenario, and i wouldn't bet against it either 🤞
Couldn't see it happening the Russians are already over stretched and struggling to get to Poland Will take another God only knows Men and thousands of vehicles and you get the feeling Poland might not sit back and wait for thousands of russians to come to their border
I've seen it talked about on this thread that he'd be the one. Where else is this being talked about, I wonder? Is it all over the Internet? If someone plans to topple their (highly paranoid) leader, the element of surprise would be pretty handy, I should think...
BTC is still doing nicely, actually.
It only took a few thousand innocent lives to tear his mask off, I wonder how many it will take to tear the rest of his face off.
You're taking it out of context. It was an implicit comparison on my part to the Leningrad siege, in which the things I mentioned actually happened.
US interference and military action against central and South American countries was against the backdrop of a very real cold war face-off with the USSR. Would they get away with that today? Absolutely not, it's almost unthinkable that the US would invade a democratic country purely to change the regime. The rest of the world has moved on, the former Soviet Union has not. Putin is still fighting the cold war in his head.
Even in the 1980s there were serious discussions in the US on whether they should go to war with Japan, much of the anti-Japanese sentiment was the perception that they were stealing US intellectual property and selling back junk copies. It's hard for people born in the late 80s and 90s to appreciate the military zeal in the US. This has evaporated, particularly since the second Iraq war.
In some ways, the hard left are still fighting wars that evaporated decades ago, so it doesn't surprise me that they find it hard to condemn this war without some ridiculous whataboutisms going back 20 years or more.
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