To an extent. The whole point of propaganda is to keep the narrative simple: we're good and they're evil, we're clever and they're stupid, we're right and they're wrong, we're brave and they're cowards. There's no room for nuance in propaganda.
Stories like this complicate the issue. I think if there was a story about Putin having someone shot for being sympathetic to Ukraine, we'd know what's wrong with it.
So the answer to your question is probably yes. It will probably have a small negative effect from our Pro-Ukraine perspective
why don’t you start a thread about Yemen?
If I can use past-precedent to justify all my current wrong-doings, then society will fall apart.
If you kill me and manage to get acquitted, can some third party use that as reason to seek an acquittal?
I am not sure if your play school curriculum covered this topic, but two wrongs don’t make a right, good chap
The White House made similar claims about Iraq. Propaganda has been around since that time the English “destroyed” the Spainish Armada.
Or those who understand that black hats, white hats, good guys, bad guys is too simplistic a narrative to explain how we got to this point. If expecting some nuance and understanding automatically marks one out as a putinbot or anti western type, I really don't know what to say frankly. Do I have to keep qualifying any points I raise with Putin is an autocratic wanker leading a nation raped by clique of mafia pricks and this invasion is a horror, lest I be accused of being pro the bloated dwarf in the Kremlin?
Saw earlier on twitter the difference between the top apps in the app store in Russia from last month to today is very interesting. Top 10 a month ago was a selection of the most popular social media apps that you'd expect to see worldwide. Today the majority were VPN apps...
What NATO countries are bordering Yemen? The West cannot police the world, the world resents when it tries
Big criticism of the Israeli PM today from UK former ambassador to Ukraine on BBC news- said if Israel thinks it can find a “middle ground” to this situation it’s the totally wrong approach - I’d be inclined to agree.
I was a bit incredulous at the idea of Russian neo-nazi groups, considering what the actual Nazis did in Russia. Reading a little more into it, Russian neo-nazi groups do not idolise Hitler, but they do appear to agree with him on almost everything. Just swap out the chosen ethnicity.
worst case scenario-Russia cant encircle Kiev completely, they are taking massives loses both finacially and militarily and become bogged down, the war drags on for years and Kiev and a few other cities hold out, the war becomes unwinnable, Putin drops a few A-bombs, does the west get properly involved militarily if if it hasnt already? (dust off the Enola Gay and drop a few Little boys into Russia is one option)
isnt that what happening in regards to Yemen.
Did i read Earlier the bbc was broadcasting in Russia on shortwave band radio ?
Think I saw the A-Team van there
And Moscow would claim it was manufactured by Kyiv tacitly and openly backing Ukranian nationalist paramilitaries attacking ethnic Russians. Both would have enough background history and facts to point to to feel their position was right(much like the sides in the Troubles here, depending on one's baseline viewpoint). Like I said this is not a simple Twitter friendly flag avatar waving situation. Putin's invasion of their country most certainly is, the background to it isn't.
I heard Christy said he would have gone for the Ukrainian folk songs only his Ukrainian was a bit rusty
It looks like the next wave of Russian re-enforcements is on the way. Things are indeed looking very bare in the pantry!
Members of Russian National Unity (RNU), one of the largest official neo-Nazi groups in Russia, are apparently entering into the conflict in support of Putin's invading forces. When confirmed ill update.
So apparently Putin wants to de-militarise and de-Nazify Ukraine by sending a neo-nazi battalion. Hate & paranoia into love in a matter of 72 hours. With the coverage of the Ukrainian Azov battalion, the same treatment should be applied so that Putin's shown as an utterly dangerous liar. If Ukraine were to join the EU, Azov must be dismantled! I would pay to watch a live stream of both Azoz and the RNU locked into a stadiuem and let them take each other out.
Egg on my face. I still would have preferred something Ukrainian although these songs have universal resonance.
Mastercard now saying they suspending operations inside Russia
Most certainly - one could imagine there will no longer be access to the station for the average user - But if one has access to a satellite dish - one CAN ACCESS the station, along with many western News channels
Whether they chose to access them, is another matter - and whether such access becomes prohibited, perhaps a matter of time
What do people think of Elon Musk’s refusal to block pro-Russian propaganda sites in Ukraine because of his undying belief in freedom of speech?
More than a few individuals are waiting for the tiniest excuse to exploit and blow out of context anything negative that happens or will happen in Ukraine. It's a country of millions of people, as the invasion goes on it's likely we will see mistakes, reprisals and atrocities committed by Ukrainians (almost unavoidable in wars)
The pro-Putinistas and ultra anti-western cynics who have been on boards for years haven't suddenly all disappeared. Most are quiet for now, but they will become increasingly vocal as time goes on.
No reason to doubt you- you obviously have experience in this area. But i guess the key point is for the average Russian who previously had access, they may neither care nor have the technical ability, to obtain this channel again.
I don't expect it. Someone else said Russia might nuke Ukraine.
It probably wasn't "Waltzing Matilda".
I'd imagine it was "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" which is a famous anti-war song. Written by a Scottish fella. He also wrote the Green Fields of France
Should have waited until after the Eurovision - they really feiced up there!!!
Should be highlighted that
No-one is disagreeing with you- some of us are just pointing out that the phenomenal support Ukraine has got to date, has been a testament to how the leadership of that country have behaved throughout. As Wibbs has said, if they start using this war as an excuse to settle old scores, then that support will wane.
China has a nuclear umbrella act with Ukraine, mutual self defense pact in case of nuclear attack. Regardless, China wouldn't allow such an act. Putin already had to delay the invasion until after the Winter Olympics on their request.
Okay Russia, you win. 😀
Yeah it would be submarine launches. Just wonder how well they know the location of each other. But if Ukraine is nuked there is no going back.
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