Really? that is a turning point then if true. These scummy blyats keep sending out mixed messages on purpose. The other day it was "Zelensky is the legitimate president" and "there will be no occupation".
It's not the first time the French are referred to cowards and surrenders
I don't think it will. It will just be bailed out at every level by Beijing and will lose a good deal of freedom of action. It'll become a big Belarus. I'm just guessing what might happen though I'm definitely not a geopolitical strategist.
Update : Putin told Macron he intends to take the whole of Ukraine - French President says he fears "the worst is to come".
Does that mean every conflict since time began is considered genocide?
Yeah, I'd agree with this. This should be the consequence of any country that threatens to literally end the human race. They've done it several times already in one week.
What are you on about?
In NATO just three countries are nuclear weapon states, these are: France, the UK and the US
The Ukraine is not in NATO and previously gave up its nuclear weapons which it inherited from the former USSR for the guarantee that Russia would recognise its sovereignty. Russia has failed to do so.
That Ukraine may seek to pursue NATO membership to prevent Russia from doing exactly what its doing now is really not that difficult to understand. And its certainly not the first exsoviet state to so. Poland, Lativa and Lithuania are all NATO members. Perhaps you think they shouldn't be simply because Putin doesn't like it?
I would welcome the end of Russia as a great power. But I fear it will not go quietly into the good night. It may mean the dying of the light for all of us.
I saw someone* saying that unless we make it clear that the sanctions would be relaxed if he backed down it incentivises him to go for broke because he has already taken the hit now.
*I can't remember where I saw it and can't find the article
there are 6 NATO countries on Russia boarders already?
Macron should be credited for keeping the direct line open, but f*ck me if it isn't obvious that Putin is going for the home run no matter what the cost to Ukraine, Russia and Europe.
I think this really marks the end of Russia as an independent great power. It is their Suez crisis. After this they will need Beijing's permission to do anything. I think if Beijing ends up being the peace broker it'll really be the moment the bipolar (US+ allies versus China +allies) world becomes clear.
And when Finland, the Baltics and Ukraine tell you and your plan to get stuffed then what?
Putin's problem goes far beyond merely joining NATO or the EU (Ukraine was close to neither). It has to do with them becoming in any way "westernised", with open societies, free elections and the works.
There is more factors in democracy than the mechanics of the most recent election.
At the end of the day it's a scenario that will eventually cost many many lives and won't end anytime soon.
The Russians are the aggressors, but I'm not sure how much help the west can be for the Ukraine people, without starting a war that might never end in our lifetime.
The economic sanctions are the only hope
I honestly just want to chat about it , that’s it. Genuinely have very little idea of the background to all this.
Apparently Putin told Macron he has no intention of halting the 'military operation' in Ukraine before its completion.
Seems talk of negotiations is just a smokescreen or sideshow that will lead nowhere.
He knows. And he most likely gave the order.
Bring Russia to its knees economically then negotiate nuclear disarmament or let them live like North Korea for the foreseeable future. Feel for the average Russian but tough.
Not being a specialist, unlike so many Strangeloves here, I am not sure. But I think the work of John Mearsheimer, one of the few political scientists to get this half way right, points the way. No more NATO expansion. No more EU expansion. Neutrality for Finland and certain states on the Great European Plain and the Caucuses. An acceptance that the world is multipolar again, and that balance of power politics is back, whether we like it or not.
If you are going to misinform or offer excuses for Putin find another site to do so
In the meantime do not post in this thread again
Fabricated conversations? And you know this how?
My point on my post count is that people can decide for themselves what sort of person and poster I am. You aren’t bothered so make sweeping statements about me you simply are not in a position to make, that’s more the likely you projecting on me what you do then any reflection of actually who I am.
Exercises shown on TV before invasion showed a fraction of operational equipment. Much of the rest is either inoperable or suffering mechanical issues.
6/7k Russian soldiers dead - double that. Thousands upon thousands POWed, injured, absconded.
Sources saying Kiyv will fall in 8 weeks. However experts say if Russians don't take the city before the weekend is over there will be an indefinite battle.
Putin is watching the same news channels the rest of Russia is watching. Seems he has no clue either of the reality ,
IKEA has just stopped all operations with Russia.
No issue with your posts at all, but you seemed to be conflicted for narratives over Putin.
Google embassies, consuls, Russian businesses etc, really simple when there's a will to do it.
If Canada wished to become communist then that would be there business. Invading Ukraine, attempting to bomb it flat and ethnically cleansing its population cannot be described as "delicate"
Attempting to explain away the invasion as some type of peace keeping mission is straight from Putins own notebook and frankly is complete bollocs.
The only reason any country close to Russia has joined NATO is to prevent exactly what has happening in Ukraine now.
Really Wibbs? We're at the stage of indisputable war crimes. At what point if Russian forces continue this does it become genocide in your opinion? When 500 civilians are indiscriminately killed: 5000, 10000, 50000? What's the threshold for intervention?
What has that got to do with my posts?
Seriously just ignore me
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