Airbus have already followed suit.
I never said the pro-Russian Government could or would not be removed. I said that as soon as that is done, the Russian army rolls back in.
I'd say that lad earlier wasn't even Russian, just some eejit who found the word on 'de Google' from Mammy's kitchen and decided to troll the thread tbh
No, as bad as we think their decision was, that would undermine the democratic choice of MEPs.
And how is the result going to be different in 2/3 weeks times when Russian flattens them all anyways?
just to say genuine thanks to the genuine posters here daily. Ive been following since the start of this. I have been fairly green about history, wars etc, know the basics, and have learnt so much in this past week. Its scary, horrendous, madness, some of things we're reading and seeing, in 2022! but its also addictive tbh...And please, I dont mean that in anyway dismissing or ignorant but its unbelievable to be following a war in real time. my brain is on the verge of exploding with all the info Ive taken in the past week. Well done to every Ukrainian out there, there is a genuine massive admiration and respect for the unbelievable bravery and fight you are showing the world....
The container ships that are no longer going to Russia
Not taking any side on Putin's plan but what happened in 2014 was the overthrow of the democratically elected leader of Ukraine in a western backed coup. Ukraine was militarily neutral.
And why was he overthrown? Because he decided to accept a more generous funding package from Russia for Ukraine instead of the EU's offer.
This is the reason why we are where we are today.
It was a massive blunder.
That's not to give cover or an excuse to what's happening today but there needs to be some honesty about 2014 in my opinion.
A non serviced plane will be a hell of a thing to get airbourne again if this current crisis ever ends- they’ll probably start pillaging from one plane to keep another one in service.
Pussyhands is an excellent A student, he learned so much over a few days afair going from just asking questions/I want to know and learn what is going on here, to an expert on everything, what Ukraine should do (surrender unconditionally), the EU (certainly "no angels" in this situation ,and are just trying to "piss off" Putin). Unfortunately for us all + Ukraine esp., doesn't seem to take much to piss the man off to extreme muderous levels, even just existing may do it.
Let him off. It will only be a matter of time before he's threadbanned. Hit the ignore button.
Worth remembering that a lot of what companies do is down to pure self-preservation. I recall when you had to order computers from Dell in Ireland at one point you had to answer questions confirming that your cheap Inspiron notebook wouldn't be used for research or manufacture of nuclear weapons in the Middle East. So terrified were Dell of pissing off the US government they thought it better to ask every customer worldwide these inane questions.
In this case, Boeing and Airbus are concerned that servicing state-owned Russian aircraft, providing them with parts and labour, might inadvertently be a breach of the economic sanctions, which can often come with gigantic prison penalties for company executives.
Of course, that's the whole point of the sanctions; to make it way too expensive for any company to do business with Russia. But don't be fooled into thinking that they're all doing it because they give a sh1t about Ukraine.
He can't "flatten them all, any more than American B-52 were able to ""flatten them all" in North Vietnam, any more than the massive U.S. presence was able to "flatten them all" in South Vietnam, despite having technical superiority and never actually losing a battle, any more than the Germans were able to "flatten them all" in Stalingrad despite massive bombing, shelling, and taking 90% of the city. Even if the Russian army wins the campaign, takes Kiev and installs a puppet government, it will have bled itself white in the process and lit the match on a bitter guerrilla war that could go on for decades.
Either you know bugger all about history, or you're just a troll, and not a very good one at that.
Bullshit revisionism
Why was he overthrown? Many reasons, chiefly among them Yanukovych was a corrupt klepocrat, Ukrainians took to the streets in their hundreds of thousands over it. After having protesters killed, he fled and the Ukrainians were absolutely correct, they discovered his mansion, private zoo, Spanish galleon, fleets of cars, full on African dictator style.
Tu-204 of the Special Flight Squadron ( presidential flight) approaching Minsk at the moment.
It's more complex than that. There was an EU-Ukrainian agreement which he changed his mind about and opted for Russian support instead. The widescale Euromaidan protests did for him, all locally generated action, culminating in the 2014 Revolution.
At the time he changed his mind Vladimir Putin called for an end to the criticism of the Ukrainian decision to delay the association agreement, and that the EU deal was bad for Russia's security interests. It's not as if he was hugely popular, his party got 30%, while his opponent was locked up in prison. Based on his keenness for running away what odds he'd do the same again?
This is a bit mad and funny at the same time. 😁 Yep, that is him from his time as an actor.
However close are the Russians and Ukrainians, culturally and linguistically? I'm aware that they are close, but it's hard to just grasp how much. The Ukrainian language is to Russian as German is to Dutch? Or English to Scots? And culturally is it like Irish is to English?
Doesn’t look like it is going to Minsx
Depends on your lens. Yanukovych functionally reneged on an electoral promise to seek closer ties with the EU because Putin put a load of money in his pocket.
There was widespread popular support for Ukraine moving away from Russia, except for in the ethnic Russian regions in the east/south east, where Yanukovych is from. His refusal to sign a particular agreement with the EU at the last minute raised a lot of red flags for people who wanted closer EU ties and led to civil unrest within Ukraine, which effectively became a West -v- East conflict. Not a civil war, more benign than that but serious enough to destabilise the country.
There was propaganda on both sides that time. Putin had pumped in a load of cash and anti-EU propaganda, including convincing Yanukovych to crack down on pro-EU marches in return for $2bn. There was no obvious EU interference, but no doubt opposition politicians were in close contact with them.
Yanukovych was democratically ousted by his own parliament when the scale of his corruption became clear. It wasn't a coup, it was an attempt by Putin to buy the Ukrainian parliament and it failed.
When it was clear he had fvcked up, Putin made grab for Crimea as a consolation prize, and being a country in disarray there was little the Ukrainian government could really do without risking all-out civil war.
Putin's goose is cooked. No matter how things turn out, his day is up. He's completely over reached.
Russia's best hope is that their generals arrest Putin, put him in a 'hospital' and take over temporarily. Withdraw all forces from Ukraine and hold new elections.
That way, there is a route back into the normal commercial world.
Any other scenario and the Russian state is down the tubes for years to come.
Very good. HIs English accent reminds me of the Ken Stott character in Charlie Wilson's War.
Is it dubbed over though?
Looks to be going to Brest
I wonder what the farmers see the main uses of the captured or abandoned armour in terms of agriculture being?
In part 2, all the "V" marked vehicles at the start are intact, you can hear the engines running as he walks past them. The rest are totally crushed to smithereens though. So these are either captured vehicles by Ukrainians or Russian/Chechens themselves doing the videoing
Yeah it’s destination just changed…
Roman looking to get out quick!
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