Food for thought alright
There are many solutions to tackle the SUV problem, which will need bold action from policymakers. These solutions – taxation, education and exclusion – have parallels with the successful campaign against cigarette smoking.
Once again I ask, have you met the Ford Ranger?
I hadn't come across this study before either.
Wasn't the recent fatality on George's street involving a ranger?
Are we defining small crossovers as SUVs though? The issue in America is SUVs are often more like on the scale of a CIE bus. A lot of the cars people are referring to here as SUVs simply aren’t.
There’s an issue with some very large Range Rovers and similar that are based on off road vehicle designs. They really aren’t urban cars at all.
I do like some SUV’s like the Range Rover Sport and the Defender 90 but even if I won the lotto I’d doubt I’d buy one. It’s a bad image as an urban dweller.
Also now that covid is over the media will be reporting heavily on climate change soon (once This “Ukraine war” blows over - fingers crossed). I can only imagine there will be increased action against SUVs. The same thing happened in the UK where activists targeted SUVs by deflating tires and applying stickers etc.
For the purposes of this thread, I think people understand SUV to include crossovers, anything that looks vaguely like a Jeep, including Qashqai, Kuga etc. Even if the aforementioned are based on hatchback cars and have a similar length and width, inside and out.
Do you realise how much bigger actual American SUVs are than Rangers?
Ironically, of all the SUVs Andrew could have picked, the Ford Ranger has one of the highest safety scores on NCAP/ACAP/US safety testing. It is one of the very few given 5 stars and has an 81% score on pedestrian safety, higher for instance than the BMW 1 series.
We'd one in work for a while. It's certainly not a big SUV for the American market. The F150 would even dwarf it.
the ford f-150 is pretty much the same length as the ranger for the standard package, but about 7-10cm taller and about 6cm wider
the cadillac escalade is pretty much the same size. so a bit bigger, not 'much' bigger. they'd be two of the more obvious ones.
This whole thing is nothing new. Here's none other than Henry Ford having the same argument with himself about the newfangled tall monstrosities of cars vs perfectly acceptable older lower vehicles in 1924:
We're in a slightly different situation this time round;
An American SUV https://twitter.com/ajlatrace/status/1495124630868213764?s=21
We aren’t talking about the same thing here at all, yet the rhetoric about them is coming from the US discussion.
That’s before you go lifting them, like this US import F150
This is one of the responses
I think that requires a little more specificity. An F150 regular cab with a 6.5' bed is about 17.5' long. Give the F150 a four-door crew cab and a 6.5' bed, and you're now about 20 feet long. A standard (eg no wildcat trim) Ranger is always 5.8m (17.5') long, regardless of cab configuration, the 4-door variant has a 5'3" bed.
However, yes, they're not too far from the big American SUVs. A Chevy Suburban is 18'10", Ford Expedition is 17.5', together with the short-length Escalade or the Lincoln Navigator, the Escalade ESV is 18'11" long. For comparison, the Merc GLS is 17'1", Cayenne is 16'2".
Not many people understand feet and inches anymore 😂
they're american trucks so aren't measured in metric...
Ooooooh, the want is big on that, I'd love one!
It's fairly easy to get rough estimates. 3 meters is only slightly less than 10'. 13' is slight more than 4 meters. 2 meters is 6'7'' approx. 2.5 cm is an inch and 30 cm is a foot.
5 Meters is 16' 5'' and 6 meters is 19' 8''. Most phone calculators can do conversion calculations as well.
However it's rubbish comparing Irish crossovers to American gas guzzling SUV's
I would disagree. Firstly it isn't "Irish crossovers" as they would be models for the European market rather than Ireland.
However, my issue is that the motor manufacturers are setting the trend and people buy what is on sale. By having crossovers, it is normalising the trend for large dominating vehicles. If we had less crossovers, would there be as many American-style SUVs sold here? I really don't think so. The crossovers aren't directly comparable to the gas guzzling SUVs but how much larger are they when compared to average SUV vehicle from 20 or 30 years ago?
The Range Rover has gone from looking like something the Queen would drive to looking like something 50 Cent would drive.
So basically we should all get rid of our Range Rovers and drive Ferraris, Porsche or Rolls Royce?
Ageism and racism in the same sentence, impressive.
Ferrari
Porsche
Rolls Royce.
There has been a big sheikh up in the luxury car market.
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Perhaps if try you really hard you can find some sexism or fat-shaming in my post?
Totally off topic.
Reminds me that my father learned to drive on a Model T.
Back in the day, folk wore a gold chain or a bracelet. Now they have a SUV that are the status symbol
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