Why do you think it's getting easier and easier to like them? There are millions of Russians in the west,,many in High positions. I don't hear an outcry from them about what their military is doing.
If they have family back in Russia, why risk it?
I'll be fair, those Fulcrums in question aren't exactly spring chickens. They were delivered to East Germany at the end of the 1980s, taken over by the Luftwaffe after reunification and stayed Germany's premier fighters until 2003. They were then sold on to Poland for a symbolic price of 1€ per plane and they've been operating them ever since. I know from press articles at the time that the Polish Air Force officials were stunned at the good condition of the aircraft during the handover and Poland seems to have taken equally good care of them.
The Czechs, like the Hungarians, got rid of theirs primarily because they wanted a purely NATO-compatible fighter. That's why they went with the Gripen in the Mid-2000s, a decision that was not very popular in many quarters from what I hear. Make no mistake, between the extreme manoeuvrability, the helmet-mounted targeting system and the high weapons load out, these things may be an old beast, but they most definitely are a beast. Having two engines also helps with survivability.
Unless the west intervene militarily by taking over control of Ukrainian airspace I fear Putin is going to commit mass murder on a scale unseen since WW2. It's great arming Ukraine to the teeth but if Russia has control of the airspace you're in for a long protracted war where the main casualties are the Ukrainians.
The only thing people like Putin understand is force. However it's done Russian forces need to be expelled from across Ukraine and allow Ukrainians to take back control of their country. Let them join NATO and the EU if they want.
Thats a very fair point.
Don't try to jump above your height to any moral high ground here. You just said that the people of Russia :
I’ve no time for them as a people, they’re hard uncivilised self centred shower of savages.
You Sir, are an intellectual and ethical midget.
There is from some of the famous Russian people tbf. Not many of us would know them but there's a famous Russian blogger Yury Dud who is posting anti-war stuff on his Instagram page. There's other stuff but it really is a far cry from western freedom of speech as we know it.
Here's an interesting Twitter thread on the propaganda war and how Russia are not winning it
I don't know whether that would be fair to the people of Leitrim. They've enough to deal with as it is down there
An 'uncivilised self centred shower of savages'.
Is that your opinion too?
Read on Zelensky - he promissed to learn Ukranian during the presidential campaign. The above it pure Kremlin BS
I worked with a Russian friend in the US back a few years ago. At the time he was not long out of college. I got on very well with him. Sound fella. Very abrupt and direct. Appeared to have a respect for the "strongman" aspect of Putin though. I don't know whether or not he's still the same. He was someone who had studied and lived in the US for a few years at that stage. Very smart fella as well.
I understand the seriousness of this wave of the crisis, but is it really necessary for news organizations to be churning out updates like this?
And as said I stand over it. Bizarre that is all you’re worried about, it really speaks volumes about you. As for the personal insults- do you think I give a flying shite what you think about me. No.
It certainly is my opinion of their government and tbh I'm tired of hearing " oh the ordinary people don't know what's happening ". That has been said for years despite numerous atrocities being carried out by Russia both at home and abroad. At some stage a people have to be held accountable for its countries actions.
Every battle video I have seen has Russian speaking Ukrainian Army fighters defending their country, hardly surprising as the war is mostly occurring in the east. Yet the Putin apologists / useful idiot types say those same people support the Russian invasion Putin & want to be ruled by Russia!
The 1798 Wexford United Irish rebellion in Ireland had English speaking areas of Ireland fighting loyalist troops. 30,000 died in Wexford alone. Guess which side was speaking Irish, the loyalist militia troops brought in to oppress & massacre the local population.
I suppose nowadays the apologist bull-shiting stooges would be claiming exactly the opposite!
Slava Ukraine! Glóir don Úcráin!
There is a difference between the governing regime and the individual Russian. Hate the regime, not the Russian. The ordinary Russians are as much a victim of Putin as the Ukrainians
It washes very well Dan.....so your brother in the west calls you and says
" Dan, the Govt is hiding the truth from you. The Russian army is leveling citys and slaughtering thousands in Ukraine. They are throwing conscripts into the front lines, where they are also being slaughtered. They are using Thermobaric bombs in heavily populated areas......its mass murder Dan. you have to tell the people. Start protests...this has to be stopped.
Dans Reply : No, Mike, thats not what we are hearing and seeing on the news...ita big peacekeeping action, protecting our brother Russians from the neo-nazis.
( then in a follow on msg on secure what's app: Mike, are you Fookin crazy? You want to get me arrested ?? Dimitri from down the road got the same news you just gave me, and you know where he is now? Prison...he went protesting about it, and now no one knows where he is. Don't ever send me an email like that again, use what's app, while we still have it. I'm surprised that you have forgotten so quick how things work here)
End of story Dan.
What other entire populations do you have blanket opinions of? How about the Chinese? Indians? The Irish?
This is a little girl who was apparently shot dead today. The poor people. It is easy to see pictures of rockets flying through the air or watch drones striking tanks and forget that there are regular people getting smashed up and killed for no good reason at all.
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/schoolgirl-polina-shot-dead-by-russian-troops-among-at-least-16-children-killed-in-ukraine-invasion-41395376.html
Absolutely not no .
The Russians started shooting at Ukrainian police and military when the Ukrainians pushed back the Russians came in proper ,all of the separatists leaders who popped up after were all FSB agents ,
There was fighting but no genocide , Russia has been claiming war crimes and regularly find mass Graves of civilians but never produce any evidence ,
The last mass Graves they supposedly uncovered in eastern Ukraine was in an area Russian forces controlled from day one
Like I said elsewhere, at some stage a people have to be accountable for their countries actions. End of.
No no no, he's talking about the entire Russian people. Not the government.
Here are some of Mick Wallace’s recent tweets:
Can't agree with or hold with your collective description of Russians. That was uncalled for.
I do agree with you about kicking them out where it is possible and easy. Certainly to start not letting any more into the West to take advantage of things they can't get in Putin's Great Empire. Shurly such a state, with a mighty military waging wars of conquest for glory of Russia should supply all of their needs that they don't actually need to come to the weak West?
Anyway, to start I assume some decision about the embassies etc. will eventually wend its way through the EU meetings, and whatever diplomatic reps. they have here in Ireland will be reduced right down to a few beans rattling around inside the huge embassy they wasted money on.
Well some have:
The leader of the Russian delegation at an Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) conference on Sunday apologized for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Agence France-Presse reported.
..."Let me present an apology on behalf of all Russians not able to prevent this conflict," Russia's Oleg Anisimov reportedly said at the closing plenary meeting. Those who see what is happening "fail to find any justification for the attack on Ukraine,"
Just a bit on there is a Russian burning his passport, and a bit further a woman saying she is Russian and does not support what is happening.
Wallace is a disgrace. Is there no way of getting him removed from office in Europe?
What an embarrassing cu^t. He always was, but by Jesus that takes the biscuit. Shame on people for giving him their vote.
FFS Russian Battlefield rations....expired 2015 wow the Russians really hate their troops!
And the dopey cúnt links to "Russian state affilated media".
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