I don't know whether that would be fair to the people of Leitrim. They've enough to deal with as it is down there
There is from some of the famous Russian people tbf. Not many of us would know them but there's a famous Russian blogger Yury Dud who is posting anti-war stuff on his Instagram page. There's other stuff but it really is a far cry from western freedom of speech as we know it.
Here's an interesting Twitter thread on the propaganda war and how Russia are not winning it
Don't try to jump above your height to any moral high ground here. You just said that the people of Russia :
I’ve no time for them as a people, they’re hard uncivilised self centred shower of savages.
You Sir, are an intellectual and ethical midget.
Thats a very fair point.
Unless the west intervene militarily by taking over control of Ukrainian airspace I fear Putin is going to commit mass murder on a scale unseen since WW2. It's great arming Ukraine to the teeth but if Russia has control of the airspace you're in for a long protracted war where the main casualties are the Ukrainians.
The only thing people like Putin understand is force. However it's done Russian forces need to be expelled from across Ukraine and allow Ukrainians to take back control of their country. Let them join NATO and the EU if they want.
I'll be fair, those Fulcrums in question aren't exactly spring chickens. They were delivered to East Germany at the end of the 1980s, taken over by the Luftwaffe after reunification and stayed Germany's premier fighters until 2003. They were then sold on to Poland for a symbolic price of 1€ per plane and they've been operating them ever since. I know from press articles at the time that the Polish Air Force officials were stunned at the good condition of the aircraft during the handover and Poland seems to have taken equally good care of them.
The Czechs, like the Hungarians, got rid of theirs primarily because they wanted a purely NATO-compatible fighter. That's why they went with the Gripen in the Mid-2000s, a decision that was not very popular in many quarters from what I hear. Make no mistake, between the extreme manoeuvrability, the helmet-mounted targeting system and the high weapons load out, these things may be an old beast, but they most definitely are a beast. Having two engines also helps with survivability.
If they have family back in Russia, why risk it?
Why do you think it's getting easier and easier to like them? There are millions of Russians in the west,,many in High positions. I don't hear an outcry from them about what their military is doing.
In this case it's country cancel culture. Early signs it's a feckin effective tool.
Mr.Putin is testing the strength of the corporate cancel culture, corporations may just be powerful enough to cancel Russia and this was not the case in 1939
Absolutely- and I stand over it. Why do you think they’re lovely or something? Is that what bothers you today? Russia and their supposed “feelings”? They repulse me to the pit of my stomach. “Most other nations” don’t go in invading sovereign nations and murdering their people. I put that before any alleged anti National feeling- but im old fashioned like that.
Can ban me away I don’t care. It’s all Putin defenders know I suppose.
During Putin’s time journalists writing negatively about him risked being imprisoned, poisoned, meeting a violent ‘accident’, disappearing entirely or politically motivated investigations. This has led to a self censorship within their media. It’s a very dangerous thing.
"I've no time for them as a people"!
Are you proud of that comment?
You would rightly be threadbanned for a statement like that referring to most other nationalities.
That was not a contrarian opinion by any stretch. It was the official finding by the UN. It was well known that the weapons of mass-destruction stuff was just a pretext. I remember at the time that the US had been amassing 300,000 troops on the border for months beforehand. Just like the Russians this time, it was obvious that they were going to invade and were just hoping for some pretext before it happened.
First I'd say that all Russians don't have access to unapproved media....secondly, for the last 20+ years, Putin has ruthlessly suppressed any protests, even pretty big ones, like after he won ( stole ) elections. So yes, they are pretty downtrodden. And even if the majority of Russians hate Putin and what he is doing to them and Russia, they feel powerless to do anything. When he has form for killing his opponents, that's a powerful argument against protesting. But maybe now it will be different....and the protests will reach critical mass. For sure though, if the majority of Russians knew what was really happening in Ukraine, it would not only reach critical mass, it would go nuclear.
Russia has been in an almost constant state of war since the end of the USSR. Overwhelmingly by their own choice. The below list doesn't include undeclared interventions in places like Lybia, Mali and other locations conducted by Kremlin-connected mercenaries but with clear Russian state foreign policy goals.
They didn't lick this off the ground and the Russian public is probably numb to war and the state's involvement in various places.
A list:
Georgia / Abkahzia: 1991-1993
Moldova / Transnistria: 1992
Tajikistan: 1992 - 1997
North Ossetia (internal): 1992
Chechnya I (internal): 1994-1997
Dagestan (internal):1999
Chechnya II (internal): 1999-2009
Georgia: 2008
Chechnya / Dagestan / General Caususes insurgency (internal): 2009-2017
Ukraine Donbas: 2014 - present
Syria: 2015- present
Central African Republic: 2018 - present
Ukraine: 2022 -present
Younger Russians especially are savvy, educated people. They know.
Was there any update from the "peace" talks today?
Oddly enough during the Georgian war there was a large amount of bombs dropped failed to detonate and a bigger amount missed intended targets
Absolutely- there’s plenty of them that support despot Putin and Lap up his fake “strong man” act. I’ve no time for them as a people, they’re hard uncivilised self centred shower of savages.
I don’t want them living here. Or elsewhere in Europe. That being contingent solely if must on their political beliefs and connections (fully verified). It’s obvious they’re are plenty of Putin tentacles allover the continent, spreading their poison while abusing our hard earned freedoms and economic opportunities. Time to get rid of them
If armaments from places like Poland continue to make a significant difference to Ukraine's chances in this war, Putin's going to go on TV about how Russia is essentially fighting a proxy war with NATO and he's going to start delivering some rather pointed ultimatums about it.
it is illegal to protest. You are putting your life opportunities at risk if you have that on your record.
a lot of public protests historically originate from universities. I don’t know what’s the story exactly with Moscow and st Petersburg universities. I presume it’s all rich kids, the rich in Russia are vulgar assholes for the most part as far as I know.
The Gardai could easily be dispersed in this situation by a tactical deployment of impudent 12 year olds from Darndale.
I knew they were still in service in Russia and Ukraine but surprised until just now that NATO countries still had some in service. I knew the Czechs got rid of theirs about 10 15 years ago.
I'm afraid this " they don't know what's happening " really doesn't wash. There are millions of Russians living in the west who presumably contact home on a regular basis. Either way at this stage I don't give a **** what Russians know I want their military to stop killing Ukrainians.
Gardai hassling protesters outside the embassy on Orwell Road.
WTF are they doing there anyway. People have a right to protest.
They are not seeing what we are seeing. The younger generation have more clue but when you govt controls the media and dictate the story it is difficult for the populace to have a view outside what they are being fed. Btw it was reported i think on friday that they were going to censor social media due to propaganda from the west.
What Ukraine is getting.
Bulgaria (MiG-29) - 16 units
Bulgaria (Su-25) - 14 units
Poland (MiG-29) - 28 units
Slovakia (MiG-29) - 12 units
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