It may well be their highest gear, because their brains have never got out of 1st gear!
True or false, from what I've read, I'd consider that there's an awful lot worse being sent back home by Russian Conscripts, when they do manage to send it, but even that is only a % of the total horror that's unfolding in Ukraine for not only them, but Ukrainians too. SLAVA UKRAINE.
Not quite. US and UK and others sent weapons in before the Russians crossed the border.
My prediction is it won't happen. It would be a PR own goal because of how unfair it would seem to football fans. The segment of society that places importance on these things is a very large one.
A football club is more than a slush fund, to ordinary people.
I swear I saw that guy in Grimsby town centre one summer, sitting on a bench, drinking cans of cheap lager in a plastic bag and shouting at passers-by.
Are Russians citizens banned from entering the EU yet?
My prediction is it won’t happen because the EPL sold its soul to the devil and it’s too late to turn back. Sanction Chelsea for something like crimes against humanity and then people ask why City and Newcastle owners are allowed in to continue. The league doesn’t give a flying fk about anything other then money first and then it’s image. Money can be used to enhance its image so I don’t see anybody doing anything in that league.
A country is being invaded, people are being slaughtered, it's a highly dangerous situation, no one gives a flying **** about the "feelings" of some football supporters. A message must be sent to Russia from as much of the world as possible. The only entity that can get rid of Putin are the Russian people.
It can’t be propaganda if everyone agrees that Ukraine has a smaller army, less weapons and inferior technology and were caught on their heels by an invading force. They stayed and fair **** to them, finally they can now get some support. They were hung out to dry.
Ernst & Young! Are they the crowd that changed their name to EY after the ballsup they made auditing Anglo Irish Bank!
If they aren't, they are going to have to sit on some long-ass train journeys.
That's exactly why it won't happen tbh. Though their capacity to buy the league may be significantly diminished on the other hand....
You think actually taking action would be the PR disaster? Putin himself would be embarassed by that logic.
I hope not, a strategic squeezing of the countries economy is needed, the more extreme you get the more precarious the situation becomes, and Russians may begin to support Putin even more.
You're probably right, but to counter that, there's more football fans that don't support Chelsea than do, in the grand scheme of things I lean towad it being less consequential that you suggest
If they're seizing assets of Russians with links to Putin, chelski falls under that banner. Ultimately they're a business.
Granted, kicking them out of European competition, wouldn't effect Russians, merely the supporters in the UK and worldwide
I'll think a little more about this and make up my mind 😄
So do you think Chelsea will be banned from the Premier League and Champions League?
Come on, it won't happen.
The "no one cares about your feelings" argument would be grand except the UK government does really need some buy-in from its population.
Banning an English football club after a Russian billionaire was allowed to buy its about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It reflects badly on the foolish "free trade" policies that allowed it in the first place.
I have seen this claim a couple of times and it has surprised me. I know of no fighter aircraft given to Ukraine by the west.
Even if they were given them today I would expect it would require even of an experienced su-25 pilot a year perhaps of training to become competent in flying a Eurofighter, F16 or other western fighter.
The danger with all of this of course is that he's now like a cornered animal... and most of the time that's when people like tyrant Putin are most dangerous, especially with an arsenal of nukes at his disposal.
This is why I hope feelers are being put out to Putin via any available channel to chopper him out to China/Iran/North Korea/whoever will take him. To me ensuring the nukes don't go is infintely more important than ensuring he or anybody else 'faces justice'. I remember reading an article a couple of years ago that he wanted out of office but couldn't see a way of doing it that would ensure his safety. No idea whether it is or was true of course, but I wondered why couldn't the Chinese or whoever arrange this to happen.
Well my point was not really about the bravery of the Ukrainians (which nobodies disputing), more about how successful they are, what I mean is, I wonder could Russia trample over them in 2 days if they really wanted. I genuinely dont know, people who understand military strategy/army capabilities/weapons being used etc in this thread may know more.
It's Russian isn't it (?) until it's owner divests himself of it or has it taken off him.
Maybe growleaves is a Chelski supporter?
I was referring to Russian clubs/teams being removed from international competitions
Thermobarics will cleanse them out.
They are probably cold war era Soviet planes similar to what Ukraine has from Poland and Bulgaria I think. Seems like they wouldnt be game changers.
Why would he flee Moscow when he's on the verge of winning a foreign war? If he can negotiate a compromise peace the ending of sanctions will be part of that. Probably wants to take Kiev first.
If the Ukrainians want a good outcome they have to hold onto Kiev. Then Putin will look very foolish
EDIT: this is fake news. Can't remove the tweet link
100% they should be banned, might force the owner to sell it,
it’s an asset and a Russian business belonging to an oligarch.
All these bas**rds should be removed
I was surprised at the support at the match to be honest, Chelsea supporters and players should also be making a stand.
The Chinese have squirmed their way to "let there be peace and no this is not a war nor an invasion". TBH you get a sense that they are hiding behind this bland PR and are privately embarrassed after investing in Putin as someone they could deal with as a serious statesman.
Whatever it takes - make their lives as uncomfortable as possible, break through the lies and propaganda and then hopefully that persuades them onto the streets in their millions.
Take down Tsar Mad Vlad
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