It's a pretty weak point to make when they're shelling cities and civilians to achieve their grand crusade. Is Zelensky a Nazi drug addict? Because I'm pretty certain Putin claimed the Ukrainian leadership was.
Regardless of the neonnazi element in Ukraine, that can be dealt with. It's just a **** excuse like nato expansionism and whatever other weaksauce **** he's come up with the last few weeks to justify invading a country and having his own economy driven into the ground.
There's a neo nazi element on the rise in America, is he going to sort that out too?
Focusing on one, single point in the face of cluster strikes, civilian killings, a string of war crimes and sending young russian men unknowingly into the meat grinder. Are you being obtuse for the sake of it or are you unable to see the bigger picture?
yes, found that unusual too. He also funded Aidar and some other very questionable battalions.
the dude is a character apparently, been chased by both Russian and US forces, as well as Ukrainian, while he was a governor... and that's just tip of the iceberg I think, total can of worms if you ask me.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has absolutely nothing to do with one neonazi member of the Ukrainian parliament (not government) and it would take quite a naive fool to think it does.
I never ever said I was glad, I said that Ukrainians are doing what they deem necessary to preserve their country and democracy from fascism. So put words in someone else's mouth.
You're obviously of the ilk that would crumble in the face of forces that would take fundamental rights from you, or else you're a Putin sneaking regarder. I don't know which it is, nor do I really care.
Anyone can fake texts on a phone is all I'm saying. I am pro-Ukrainian but dispassionate about it. Ultimately you/others should be careful about becoming a consumer of anything the Ukrainian government puts out. You are a faraway Irish person not a Ukrainian nationalist (I assume?)
Would you ever f00k off with this. They fought their previous government for the right to self determination and now you want them to just submit to foreign aggression? I thought imperialism went out in the 19th century but here we are in 2022 with limp wrists saying they should just take a beating if they know what's good for them. Utterly pathetic.
I don't support the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Only a person of very low intellect should think that an attempt to understand the conflict is tantamount to support. Elsewhere I have seen Wibbs referred to as a Russian troll for similar reasons.
The question asked was what Putin was talking about when he refers to ridding Ukraine of neo-nazis. He is talking about groups like the Azov Battalion. He is talking about members of the Ukrainian government - past and present - and Western handlers who supported and armed these groups and set them loose on Donbas.
Joke trending on Russian social media today
"Don't drop your iPhone, because it's going to be your last"
You tried to peddle they were in government. This, not coincidentally, has been used as casus belli by the far more dangerous fascist sitting in the Kremlin. It was and is a lie. It's an attempt to get the Russian people to buy into his war of national extinction he had long planned for Ukraine.
A side benefit for Putin is that some absolute low-IQ roasters in the West will repeat it. Sound familiar? You've been hijacked by propaganda. You may have been sold on the lie, but don't try to get me or anyone else to buy it.
Here's the thing, people are saying if the Russians attack a NATO state then it's over but I don't think it is. NATO would have no desire or need to launch nukew, they could annihilate their army by conventional means. Russia would be the ones launching nukes as a last ditch attempt and by that point you'd expect the likes of Putin to be removed and negotions started.
Basically once NATO roll in all bets are off and anyone with any desire to keep living will prevent a Russian nuclear strike.
A bit pot-kettle-black here. Weren't you just parroting a lot of jingoistic tripe about how you are glad Ukrainians are fighting (futilely) to the death?
And you have the gall to talk about people out there who "lap up any excuse" for war? I'm sure your praise is a real comfort to those who are losing and will continue to lose family members due to this conflict - but sure at least they didnt negotiate with the Russians eh?
I don't disagree.
The Ukrainians are on the good side here. The Russians have been gaslighting and manipulating the entire world in the run up to the attack. And frankly, patience and trust is not there with pro Russian posters or those obviously trying to downplay absolutely everything that is happening to get control of the narrative. It's not going to work.
I know what side I'm believing. As we speak that statement is being researched and investigated with a fine tooth combe. He would have had to do his dillegence before putting it out there.
Even if it was fake, it ties in with what we are hearing overall - many of the Russian soldiers had little awareness of what was expected of them and some even thought they were going in as a peacekeeping force. It's a deeply corrupt regime and regards even its own troops as dispensable.
There are people out there who will lap up any excuse, any pretext for war. They say they hate war yet find themselves online making excuses for those who launch it. They say they hate fascism yet provide comfort to the greatest fascist threat of the 21st century playing out on our television screens and in the cities of Ukraine. They are empty vessels for propaganda, they appear to think values are a horsetrade.
They are to be pitied.
Exaclty. Carpet bomb the cremlin into the the abyss.
Asking me why Putin didn't do this or that is a nonsense deflection.
Are there neo-nazi militias operating in Ukraine with the explicit support of the government? Yes or no.
Well, they're probably conscripted soldiers - and of course they're pawns. They're literally the very thing pawns on a chess board are supposed to represent.
By the looks of some of the interactions with locals they haven't a clue what's going on other than following orders.
Is it better to be passively subsumed into Russia or actively subsumed into Russia?
The Ukrainians have quite clearly made a decision on that matter.
By your logic the major world powers should just play top trumps to take over every other country in the world.
Its trivially easy to fake text messages. So its up to each person if they want to believe it or not.
Its being read out to stir emotions.
And who's the President of Ukraine now?
You got caught peddling known Kremlin propaganda, and you can't find a way out.
A quote from an American writer who wrote a (critical) book on the Asov Batallion - Michael Colborne:
"The best known, though not best understood, name on Ukraine’s far right — the Azov movement, the subject of my latest book — is being more frequently dropped online by people who want to give Putin a free pass to do what he wants in Ukraine."
Wakey, wakey. That's you dingus.
All in the eyes, Putin knows the game is up
From the West Point article - hardly Russian propaganda:
"The Azov Regiment enjoyed support from within the government of then President Petro Poroshenko and the security services, despite well-documented reports of human rights abuses"
Who lost the election in 2019. Never mind that his lowest support when he did get in was in the eastern more Russian states. So why didn't Putin invade when he was in charge what with the nazis getting government support?
Like the claims of genocide by drug addict Nazis?
One by one they'll fall, easy pickings. Piles of sh ite . All curtainside vehicles lolz. Will be fun to shoot through.
This sounds totally believable. Apparently, many Russian soldiers weren't even told they would have to fight Ukrainians and thought they were going in as some sort of liberating army and would be greeted with cheering crowds throwing flowers to them.
Yes I do. Russia have made a bags of this invasion. A comedy of amateur errors. They won't win this war easy that's for sure. Could be like the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan where they underestimated the job on hand and came back with their tails between their legs.
Even if it is, it might not be too far fetched given who's behind all this.
Missiles being fired near or at Kiev tonight. Already been a couple of big explosions but of course you can't tell anything at night about targets or anything
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