Zoomski
cry me a river “killer” katrin.
Ukrainian president would want to be mad to go meet them in person, zoom is available, they'll just grab him and kill him .
So a guerilla style approach whereby ukranians target the russians on their own patch is off the wall? Id imagine its being actively considered. It has been done plenty of times in plenty of places
Once Putin is perceived as being a liability to Russia, his position suddenly becomes very vulnerable. He took a massive gamble on Thursday morning and it seems to be backfiring.
"I've got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside!"
Bit like the Ukrainian attitude except across the general population it seems
Getting north of Crimea was crucial to unblock a canal that feeds Crimea, apparently it cost Putin billions. Thankfully that canal would be pretty easy to block again.
Must be why the Russian troops have stopped advancing...
You'll get thread banned for sensible talk around here. All the boy soldiers here want someone elses blood from their keyboards.
Yeah that's sanctions lol.
I mean if they can't pay their bill or onlyfans can't pay them etc....
Besides some people on this thread seem to prefer gay porn anyways!
Seems like the main piece of advance has been in the South to link Donbass and Crimea. A lot of us have been wondering what the actual plan is.
It seems like they are intent on taking Kharkiv. However, linking Donbass and Crimea may be the actual plan. They link it, secure it and then they pull the troops out of the north and say "we only wanted to secure Donbass and Luhansk. That was the special operation". They will also be able to capture/defeat the Azov Battalion and they can say "look, we got these Nazi's".
Surely he doesn't think he can take Kyiv without flattening it? The operations would be to surround Kyiv and Kharkiv, keep those troops occupied whilst he goes for the actual prize. One that he could possibly get away with.
I'm trying to find logic here. Because what we originally thought he would do would be to just formally take Donbass and Luhansk. If he did that, their number superiority wouldn't have counted as well when fighting over 1 corner of the country.
Hopefully there are people in the west talking to people in Russia about removing Putin.
all sanctions can revoked if he is removed and jailed/stabbed/shot/shat on and diplomacy reset to a few months ago.
this has gone crazy , the EU went from weak to over stepping , they can’t win.
Life is weird, it's easy to forget that tomorrow I'll be just doing the same damn things I normally do and that my immediate live experience is no different than it was on a random Monday in 2014. I don't know just feels weird. I always had this view of history as a real immersive all encompassing thing but clearly it wasn't like that. If anything most people were completely oblivious to what was going on and had no real visceral sense they were living in war times. Obviously the closer you are to the action the more inaccurate that statement is but there's a nice sentence in the book Sapiens that touches on this. Essentially history is lived only by the elites while the ordinary people just go about their everyday lives.
Putin is the only person escalating this. In the long run a guerilla type war might be more effective for the ukranians. Its how we defeated the brits. That actually happened in real life and not call of duty.
Well we're envisaging the main point of the coup would be to stop Putin dragging Russia and the world into nuclear war so you have to assume whoever takes over would be better from that perspective.
It's not just that. I've been up pretty late for most of the past few nights to keep up to speed with what's going on and there would always be a groundswell of reports on the likes of Twitter or on here about firefights, air raids, missile strikes and covert ops groups being uncovered, even at this time. That all seems to have gone off a cliff. It's like the calm before the storm, the world collectively holding its breath, it seems.
This post highlights to me that several posters have clearly been playing too much Call of Duty and watching too many movies.
This is currently a regional conflict where one of the players has nukes and potentially the very real will to use them - likely tactical devices first rather than strategic ICBMs, but once that line is crossed, it changes everything and not for the better!
As someone who was a teenager when the Berlin Wall fell, I remember the Cold War and the ever present threat that it could go hot and what that would mean - essentially the end of civilisation as we know it.
This situation is rapidly approaching that "familiar" feeling and gung ho bravado like the above or lamenting that Europe and particularly Ireland isn't getting more actively involved is frankly naive in the extreme.
Escalating this situation to where Putin thinks he can justify deploying nukes is the last thing we want. Cooler heads need to, and hopefully will, prevail yet.
Putrid is threatening nuclear weapons so its well gone beyond time to be afraid of upsetting him!
Could be a symbolic easing up before tomorrow's talks? I'm guessing as much as anyone.
Just thinking the same as I go to bed tonight I am not as nervy as I was Friday or last night. Both mornings I woke up and was relieved to read reports of Russia struggling and being held at bay. However, this evenings silence in itself is disconcerting.
I've been glued to this all weekend, meaning no study or work I usually prep Sunday evenings to get ahead for the week. All that stuff feels irrelevant.
Thanks for all the commentary, insights and dark humour at times.
No it's not just you I was going to ask the same.
Orks
The bombing usually starts around 3.30 or 4.
My brother spent a lot of time in Colombian regions controlled by Farc and was in a few hairy situations himself.
Change of tactics by Russian troops?
To be honest I think that has crossed a fair few minds. Remember the USSR was beaten by the Finns in WW2 in the Winter War. They had the ability to camouflage themselves against them (though they sided with the Nazis). In any given area, the same is not out o the question with the ability to carry out a small style campaign to scare the Russians. Take the attack on the Dubrovka Theatre by Chechen sepratists, the Russians gassed them out of it but it still was an attack on the Russians own door step. Im just saying dont discount such things. Plus the Russians have encountered resistance they did not expect
By the way, is it just me or has everything gone VERY quiet in Ukraine all of a sudden? The last few nights, there were constant reports of missile strikes, air raids, videos of firefights but tonight... nothing.
It's too quiet for my taste...
I get that central bank funds can be frozen with the foreign custodians but if people are selling the Rubel for it to fall like a stone in value they need to be able to clear the transaction and make a settlement which would require Swift and a Russian correspondent bank or a branch of a international bank that is licenced in Russia.
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