It's not a nuke but type of weapon here? Unless they hit something...fertiliser plant or something?
I've been running some simulations on my mainframe, and I think I can safely say, the only winning move is not to play at all. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to play a nice game of chess...
Surrounding it in "peacekeepers"....as likely reported on RT...
Your 100% correct.
Makes the situation even more delicate.
Contrary to popular belief, a lot of non-nuclear weaponry will generate a mushroom cloud of varying sizes depending on the size of the weapon and what height it was exploded at.
There is strong intel that Putin plans to invade Poland. This conflict was always heading toward the EU
If it's the one in MeepMeep's link it definitely looks like what you'd expect a mini-nuke to look like alright
It’s just playing symantics- it’s language play- we won’t pay for destructive weapons but we’ll pay for the dust covers that protect the engines if the fighters when not in use- I mean FFS let’s just say an unconditional yes to this decision and be done with it
That is genuinly very funny.
They need militaty aid, the EU is supplying it which is the right thing to do.
All of these countries wanting to join NATO all of a sudden. No one gave a **** before or even paid what they should. even some leaders were calling NATO brain dead a little while ago.
Intel has been good till now tbf. As a side bar was Putin reading about WW2 and decided it sounded like a laugh recently or something cos he's taking almost the exact same steps page for page only replacing Czechoslovakia with Ukraine.
Appears to be an explosion at the Azot Cherkasy fertilizer and chemical plant
This thread is full of idiots talking out of their hole.
Ye WW3 lets bring it on. Nuke the whole fkn place. Wtf is wrong with you people?
Apparently Ukraine has more Migs than pilots, although at this rate who knows
Some more of those TB2s would be handy
with What army?
Nothing is more beautiful to watch then a russian tank cooking off or gets turret blown off
I totally disagree it sends the right message to Putin.
EU and NATO are not giving up on Ukraine, it gives them more leverage in any negotiations.
I think we are getting beyond being delicate given the actions of Russia.
The EU isn't a military organisation, at all. Aid is one thing, supplying combat aircraft quite another. Where in the Treaties is this covered?
Whatever you are smoking is not doing you any good. "Strong intel" 🙄
Is it definitely not a nuke? Anyone know? The have low power nukes.
Okay will bother with a response giving more detail of my thoughts on it, despite speed of flow of thread probably means it is somewhat irrelevant now.
A few logical statements based around the ideas in your posts which should illustrate problems with your emotional argument.
Revoking Western visas != "ethnic cleansing" of Russians (was per another poster, not you in fairness and what started these discussions)
Revoking a Western visa != "destroying" a life in every case per your own hyperbole (at least not "ethnic cleansing" levels of hyperbole).
There would obviously need to be discretion & consideration about step of actively removing people, e.g. do you expel someone who has lived here quite a long time (long enough for a citizenship perhaps?), has embedded entire work & their life here? Do you expel someone who is known to be "wanted" by the govt./would on their lists for some reason? I would say no, that would indeed be ruining a life. The far easier choice perhaps is to first stop the granting such visas to Russians any more until there is a policy change (retreat from Ukraine) or better until the current regime under Putin is gone from power for good.
Revoking a visa != imprisonment or internment.
IRA != Irish govt. or Irish people. Now maybe if the Irish state had been backing up the IRA, the UK govt. might have been justified taking a collective action against Irish citizens.
Please do remember, this is the Russian govt. here, launching this war in the Russian people's name. Though Russia is not a democracy like Ireland, Putin has been quite popular in the past. I believe this has been waning in more recent years (hence his need to repress any opposition alot more, use propaganda & to fix "elections" more blatently). I don't know how much support this action has in Russia, probably few posting here do and we'll have to wait and see how it all turns out.
It's funny, some of the harsh and getting harsher sanctions being dished out now are definitely a collective economic punishment of Russia and all its citzens for the Putin/Regime/govt. actions. They are actually going to disrupt lives, cause suffering and cost the Russians alot of money, perhaps their jobs, livelyhood, and ability to holiday in/easily travel to the EU/US given the extensive airline and flight path bans today, as we'll see in coming days/weeks.
The weapons the West is supplying to Ukraine are likely killing Russian conscripts with no say who've been packed off to wage a nasty and stupid war by Putin. You should also be opposed to these actions, as they will definitely hurt ordinary Russians, just not those ones comfortably living in the West on a visa or intending to come here soon on a visa for study/business/pleasure.
CNN will be playing that one on a loop all night!
Still havent seen to much off the socalled overhyped hypersonic missiles thats been in russian propaganda for the last 10 years
Presumably this does not just mean planes but pilots and support and logistics teams for them
I'm just simply so embarrassed by that. Sorry Ukraine. ☹️☹️
Where is it prohibited?
Why can there not be a neutral Ukraine? Why choose positions? Siding with an unfriendly military alliance and this was going to cause a war. Need both sides to pull back from the brink here and NATO and US and West to have a meaningful debate with Russia. Russia and Ukraine can get along in peace just accept some dashes of realism that there is a large group of people in Ukraine who prefer to be ruled by Russia. It's a breakup of the country but a far better alternative than nuclear armageddon.
Sure, you were probably one of the posters a few weeks ago making the same comments to posters like @Yurt! and @Gatling when they said that Russia will invade the Ukraine. No, no. Bullshit. Just fake news from the Americans. Putin will never invade. I know your type. Denial is not just a river in Egypt
C'mon! Is there really "strong intel" of this, and has it been shared with you? The whole situation is fckued up, but there's no need to lose the run of ourselves with exaggeration.
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