It's a stab in the back same as Russians did to Poland on 17 September 1939..
From watching a bit of it, I believe they can veto in the Security Council but not in the General Assembly vote which I believe is planned soon.
In reality I don’t think it makes an iota of difference but is interesting to see where various countries stand.
Afraid what we will wake up to tomorrow. I think Putin will be frustrated with the slow progress towards Kyiv and hit it hard tonight.
All I can say is fair play to the Ukrainians and Zelensky - could you ever imagine our lot trying to motivate us like he has during this!!?
They also took control of Chernobyl reactor on the way and will be using it as another threat to the West
This highlights a huge issue with the UN, it is mandatory that such a member must abstain, but this is routinely ignored and has continuously been so for years.
Completely agree.
Ukraine should be fast-tracked to Nato.
For the European Union, we need to be a bit more careful; otherwise we may inadvertently cause mass immigration because Ukrainians will naturally feel threatened in their own country.
We shouldn't deplete and cause a brain-drain in Ukraine, damaging it long-term, by entering it into the EU.
We must think about how mass emigration will affect Ukraine.
those javelin missiles must be making a difference ...
They can't, see Article 27 of the UN Charter:-
1. Each member of the Security Council shall have one vote.
2. Decisions of the Security Council on procedural matters shall be made by an affirmative vote of nine members.
3. Decisions of the Security Council on all other matters shall be made by an affirmative vote of nine members including the concurring votes of the permanent members; provided that, in decisions under Chapter VI, and under paragraph 3 of Article 52, a party to a dispute shall abstain from voting
It has long been noted by legal scholars that Article 27 (3) is routinely ignored.
looks like tonight will be a tough night for the defenders as the interlopers will be at their fiercest, prayers for the defenders🇺🇦
This permanent membership should come with strings attached that can be firmly cut if you invade your Sovereign neighbors
China have their own affairs to look after then taking sides here. They can just sit back and watch things develop while considering their own invasion of Taiwan which will likely happen if Russia's invasion is a success.
Apparently, it was carrying paratroopers, so the capacity would have been more 128-145, but still a massive blow. That could make the difference in some sector tonight.
I had the forces coming in further to the west. Makes sense if they came across from that location, it's a shorter route. Still 100 miles across enemy lands. Resistance had to be patchy.
No, on how developments are quickly unfolding.
Absolutely , we've seen since desert storm and possibly further back in the Arab- Israeli Russian tanks and armour aren't the great game changer they were always made out to be ,the same in Syria and eastern Ukraine the latest issue T90 tanks litter the battlefield , extremely subseptble to anti tank weapons .
Compare to the Abrams tank I know which one I'd rather be sitting in conflict against other tanks
Would be nice to think they managed to massacre a planeload before they could land but I'll wait for confirmation.
The second aircraft they downed tonight fair play to the lads
Thanks, haven’t been able to read specifics or full articles but the clause in part 3 there but note it says the party of dispute ‘shall’ (not ‘must’) abstain. Russia voted against so I’m guessing they are getting away with it due to poor wording in the charter?
Either way, doesnt really make a difference as if the resolution was passed would Putin really care?
What is the story with India abstaining?
How good would it be if Russians filled their fuel tanks in Ukraine with tainted diesel, ruining their engines
They buy fertiliser from Russian on a very large scale
They are tied into joint military development programs everything from ships , drone and fighter jets
First of all…I am sorry for not having read through this thread to date…
But in this strange circumstances I tend to ask why one is acting exceptionally…why is Putin behaving this way….?
Is he somewhat “justified” in believing NATO is threatening Russia by expanding eastwards. There is obvious evidence since the fall of the Berlin Wall that NATO is expanding closer to Russia’s borders and thus limiting its power globally.
For the record; I believe Putin is in the same category of human as Hitler; a violent uncivilised human being. However we can’t fight against an enemy if we don’t attempt to understand his motivations, at least.
I don't know. Although their recent record (increasingly authoritarian and sectarian) might explain it.
Let any Indians you know exactly what you think of this stain on their country's honour.
Confirmed by Ukrainian General Staff apparently:
I suppose even with a 50% success rate they would be a huge success, they are supposed to be much more accurate than that though. A $175k missile taking out a $4million tank is a money well spent, huge moral boost too and puts fear in to any Russian in a tank, they would feel safer outside it.
Any chance Nato could hold military exercises near enough to Russia to draw attention, while at the same time US and EU nationals are advised to leave Russia, put the fear of god into the generals?
How the fcuk could the UAE abstain, watched an Indian news program and their response wasn't unexpected, they seem to see themselves as an honest broker
And if the EU wants to keep it's freedoms we should learn a valuable lesson never appease anyone that displays such character traits again. Even if that means stop doing business with China, sending **** influencers to Dubai etc so be it.
In a way Putin has been a wolf in sheep's clothing.
They're friendly with the Russians (military aid), but also have strong ties with the US - so at least they didn't vote against. Same goes for China - they could have voted against as well, but they didn't.
No idea what UAE are on about.
I don't want to sound like I'm siding with the enemy's but Putin worth billions sitting on his fat ass in a luxurious governmental building eating cavier and drinking the finest vodka by the bucket load while sending young Russian soldiers from mostly poor backgrounds to their unnecessary death is disgusting.
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