Right, but so what?
Like, what's the idea behind it re: this invasion?
It completely chokes those in their teens, 20s and 30s. All of those brands they have become accustomed to when growing up. All those streaming services, coffee brands, phone manufacturers, clothing manufacturers. You'll end up turfing thousand's of out retail and distribution jobs, no access to Western technology. Pissed off young people who have found themselves back into a Soviet time machines. Deal with that Vlad.
Of course not they have their own worries with another region trying to break away , who's leader publicly stated Russia would defend its citizens outside Russia
It's nonsense so the Russians can get time to regroup. Would trust them an ounce. They can talk when the Russians retreat.
"With a maximum payload of up to 37 tonnes (81,600 lb) and a volume of 340 m3(12,000 ft3), the A400M can carry numerous pieces of outsize cargo, including vehicles and helicopters that are too large or too heavy for previous generation tactical airlifters, for example an NH90 or a CH-47 Chinook helicopter or a heavy ..."
This just in: Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy and Russian president Vladimir Putin are discussing a place and time to hold talks, according to a spokesperson for Zelenskiy.
The spokesperson also added that Ukraine is ready to talk about peace and a possible ceasefire, Reuters further reported.
Earlier today, the US State department cast doubts about whether Russia had legitimate plans for diplomacy, saying that Russia must stop bombing Ukraine first.
“Now we see Moscow suggesting that diplomacy take place at the barrel of a gun, or as Moscow’s rockets, mortars, artillery target the Ukrainian people,” said State department spokesperson Ned Price. “This is not real diplomacy. Those are not the conditions for real diplomacy.”
The Guardian live blog
Why aren't Europe / the wider world, banning Russians from their countries?
It's such an obvious sanction to uphold!
No more Russian immigration, either.
What good does punishing a few billionaires do?
Surely, it's the ordinary Russian on the street that needs to be impacted by sanctions? Not because they are at fault, but because the Putin regime must be connected inextricably to their loss of rights/opportunities.
The EU / USA / NATO should announce a ban on Russian migration to Europe, with immediate effect.
What will the average Russian think when wanting to holiday: "Oh let's go to Central African Republic this year?".
I doubt that will ever happen, to be honest. Russia seems to demand the kind of leader who rules the place with an iron fist. That could be for reasons such as a sense of machismo in Russian culture, or since it's such a big country with lots of potential fractiousness, it requires an authoritarian to hold the whole project together, but whatever the reasons, Russia has now had quite the history of utterly ruthless leaders.
Now, you may get a relatively palatable leader for those of us in the west, like Boris Yeltsin, but inevitably that will just give way to another Putin.
I think the main lesson going forward is that you just have to keep an eye on them and make sure they don't get carried away (or more specifically the Russian government, not necessarily their people). But that can only happen if the current Russian project implodes, and that is not yet a given.
I would also ban all international sport participation by russia for at least 10 years (the uefa, f1 stuff will turn russian people against him)
if Abramovich has sanctions applied this will affect chelsea but the club should be frozen.
Precisely. The rouble is one of those currencies that is driven by almost only two variables, the price of energy and the investment climate.
The investment climate in Russia has been cold for a while and is about to get a hell of a lot colder. And if their main market starts pulling back on buying their energy, it's curtains for the rouble. Hyper inflation meet Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin; Mr Putin, this is hyper inflation.
Serbia staying neutral
Here's an interesting article from intelligence quarterly saying the economic advantages sit with Putin and Russia despite the sanctions:
https://intelligencequarterly.com/economy/oil-shocks-have-a-history-of-crashing-economies-and-enabling-enemies/
Old Joe Stalin moved cr** load of Ruskies into Baltics after WWII and fooked out hundreds of thousands to Gulags and Siberia, etc.
He did same with Tatars in Crimea. He moved Chechens, and ethnic Koreasn to Kazackstan and Uzbekistan.
He was basically eihncally clensing on a grand scale even from the 1930s. Sure he let millions of Ukrainians perish in famines as colectivisation kicked in.
There was some issues in 90s after Baltics became independent and the natives wanted to limit ethnic Russians like not giving them automatic citizenship if they had no ties to country prior to WWII and also limit getting state job if one could speak native languages, etc.
The numbers fell from 1.7 miillion in 1989 to 1 million in 2017.
And some of those have ended up here, others went back to Russia.
Ever wonder why say some Lithuanians are such fans of Putin ?
Natural gas futures are down after freaking out a few days ago because gas flows from Russia through the Ukraine have actually increased since this started. This means millions, if not billions, every day for Gazprom. Russia's version of carrot/stick?
Anyone can help the Ukraine by financial support. Anyone can show support by turning up outside Russian Embassy..
So he was speeding along, saw what happened the truck ahead, and tried to do an emergency "U" turn? And lost control??? The video I saw, only showed the tank / gun travelling what seemed to be too fast, swerving across the road and hitting the car, stopping right on top of it, before reversing slowly off it. I didn't see any 2nd attempt to drive over it, only some people trying to extract the driver, Successfully it seems.
Russian tank and armored vehicle men have very bad memories of their vehicles being destroyed in Chechnya. Kill the first and last vehicles, and pick off the remainder at their ease. A burning tank or AV is not a nice way to go.
If any of you are old enough to remember the insatiable appetite Russians had for simple Western World items such as denim jeans and other non-communist produced equivalent's before the collapse of the USSR. A Russian/China alliance isn't going to keep consumers happy if they are excluded from modern consumables. Cutting off products and services will fuel the anti Putin sentiment in the motherland. Ukraine unfortunately is feeling the brunt of it right now but these companies with very healthy balance sheets need to act. Soft power also - UEFA need to exclude them from competition.
This is how Russia are attempting to murder civilians in the Ukraine
purposely running over them with tanks.
this guy survived
Unless I'm missing something, what's the significance of this aviation update?
They will work as the war chest is for Putin, his cronies and for war. None filters down to Igor or Ekaterina. Once they start hurting then the rumblings start and he can't nuke his own cities. Plus how long will that money last spending billions on a war and nothing coming in. The money will keep them going for a while but he will burn through a trillion pretty quick with no where to turn for additional funds. It could end up worse than the 80s
Currency is, always has been, and always will remain a means of exchange only, with no intrinsic value of its own. It matters not if it is rupples dollars or gold, you can attempt to exchange it for goods and services which do have a value, but if the goods or services cannot be delivered because of controls or sanctions the currency is valueless.
Fair play to the Mods for clamping down on all the suspicious posters. 10 days ago, this thread was a total cesspit
The sanctions that have been announced how long will they last even if they pulled out today? The sanctions need to cripple Russia for years to come (unfortunately it will affect Russians who do not agree with this war).
it might be extreme but I think the country should be cut off economically and diplomatically for many many years. I would also cut internet access to russia (there are backhauls from russia going through EU countries shut them down)
Attention:
Turkish Airforce Airbus Transport aircraft just landed at the Airbase in South East Poland, close to Ukrainian border.
The reality is that the economies of western countries are dependent on materials from Russia and a variety of other dictatorships. Sanctions will either have a time limit or western governments will assist industries to get around them.
That’s exactly it- you need to send them back to the Stone Age. Russia produces fcuk all in terms of new technology or hugely desirable consumer brands. This is absolutely the west’s trump card but vested interests are too worried about losing a few billion in markets. Just check out Italy’s pathetic posturing over luxury designer stuff Russia (the corrupt elites) buy
They're already spunking it up the wall trying to keep the rouble from collapsing. 600bn sounds like a lot until you're burning through reserves to keep a weak currency from going through the floor.
Crypto sounds goody-gumdrops until you realise that in an energy sick economy the US dollar is the only game in town.
The greenback remains undefeated.
That 'war chest' has been heavily depleted in the 2008 financial crash, in 2014 war and the sanctions from then and the pandemic of the last two years. No Russia doesnt have a war chest of deep pockets to keep 150k troops going in any prolonged conflict and also tackled sanctions at home.
If Afghanistan , Grozny and Syria are anything to go by ,the have no issues razing a city to the ground
If and when Putin goes, the West must re-set with Russia; bring it back into the international fold, eliminate sanctions, and watch it and her population thrive.
But eliminating Putin and the sack of surrounding cronies is the problem...
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://we.vanillicon.com/v2/e050b53be62f0ae2404c620976170938.svg)
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://wd.vanillicon.com/v2/df05300f57fe28ddd3330602c0adbfdb.svg)
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://w8.vanillicon.com/v2/8078e6b81295c08b3df3e770f66e931c.svg)
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://wa.vanillicon.com/v2/a08d55691d6f78a042612a7aa18ff3ab.svg)
