exactly the only hope for ukraine except surrendering is to completely sacrifice the entire country (the west will pay to rebuild after) and engage in syria/stalingrad style street battles with russians - the more body bags going back to russia the better optically - meanwhile take any random chance opportunity to attack/ terrorise russia - moscow and all russian cities should be paralysed at this stage with bomb threats to help russians realise their brother slavs are being murdered in the ukraine - the west also needs to provide ukraine with cyber weapons - if putin is fighting dirty the gloves need to come off sooner rather than later - why else bother fighting if you are going to surrender - its either fight or dont bother
as the saying goes sometimes the best form of defense is attack and you cant negotiate with a tiger who has his head around your neck
The going straight to nukes route would almost certainly have even his close supporters think him mad and take him out.
Strong words from Donald Tusk
"some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn" - Putin is the Joker
I mean technically we are still a neutral country, so until the official position changes, we can't be picking sides in any conflict. We can complain on humanitarian grounds of course.
Why the fauq would anyone want to sign another sham Minsk agreement,they repeatedly smashed the other 2 Minsk agreements , Russia didn't even want Ukraine involved in the original Minsk agreements
So IMO there is a distinct possibility we may be dealing with a madman who "wants to see the world burn". And unlike Saddam has the capacity to make that happen..
There is also a distinct possibility that he has access to better intelligence reports, advisors, and sees a positive (for Russia) outcome to all this.
People are rushing to the idea that he's gone nuts. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if this ends up very different from the projections in this thread. Admittedly, I think it's a foolish action at this stage, but, I'm not a leader of a nation, who has fought off competition for years, nor do I have the resources available to him for analytical projections.
As for wanting to see the world burn, if that was the case, he would have opened all this with nuclear/biological/chemical attacks on his biggest enemies first. Not played with international diplomacy for months, and invaded in this manner.
But wait, theres more!!
If you mix some soap shavings in, you can make DIY napalm!! all for the price of a Molotov cocktail!!😐️
Ireland shouldn't cancel diplomatic relations with Russia.
Nor should we be hoping that a world war breaks out.
'First strike' is effectively meanigless when it comes to a nuclear exchange. Has that senator never heard of 'mutually assured destruction?
That's likely, though the Russians usual M.O. is inexplicably falling out of tenth floor windows.
I'd reckon Putin's plan is take Kiev, try to avoid public civilian deaths, for the optics, gather as many of the current government up, though some of course will be accidently shot, or fall out of ground floor windows to their unforeseen deaths, declare a 'ceasefire', install a puppet government. Declare a victory against western Jewish nazis. Job done. The usual cut the head off the snake to avoid a protracted war, though that also usually doesn't work. Save for in actual centralised dictatorships disliked, even hated by its people.
Why wasn't this done in 2014?
The end game has to be the installation of a puppet government ala Belarus.
This may also include splitting the country further
Can someone explain why roads in Ukraine were not destroyed by the Ukrainians army? The Russians seek to be able to drive armoured vehicles at top speed without fear of a mine or even a pothole.
He could have bowed and scraped to Russia's 8+ years of hybrid warfare, illegal annexation, support of uprising, and absurd demands I suppose, but he wasn't elected on those terms, and he seems to represent the views of Ukrainians who have already had a Russian puppet and overthrown him.
We can all see now that Russia's plan all along was never negotiation or half-measures, only the complete control of Ukraine.
The 418 error code was a nice touch
Would you like to provide some examples of this? I'll give you head start - the US just kicked out Russias No. 2 diplomat.... crickets.
Nuclear first strike has been on the cards for both Russia and The US. Will it come to it?
Oh look Paul Murphy/Mick Wallace/Richard Boyd Barret is back. All NATOs fault that the Gay/Nazi/Jews are being invaded.
Belarus is the world capital of "being suicided". There was an instance last year of a protest leader who manager to climb a tree with a broken leg and without a ladder in order to hang himself from said tree.
It will mean he can't access any assets he has in Europe and probably now in the UK and the US but like the rest of his acolytes he can still tap the Russian economy. He's supposed to be worth obscene amounts of money largely through shareholdings in oil companies.
Well this is the thing. I remember Christopher Hitchens saying he first realised Saddam Hussein was a maniac when did something (I forget what) that any rational person could see was against his own and Iraq's interests. We have been told for years that Putin's fundamental motivation is his regime's and his personal survival. I cannot for the life of me see how invading Ukraine advances that goal.
So IMO there is a distinct possibility we may be dealing with a madman who "wants to see the world burn". And unlike Saddam has the capacity to make that happen...
Infomercials running on Ukrainian Tv instructing citizens on how to make molotov cocktails.
Looks like the crux of what Russia actually wants (i.e Ukraine to move closer to Russia than NATO and the EU) will be known soon.
A spokesperson for Vladimir Putin has said the Krelim is ready to send a delegation for talks with Ukraine. Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the Russian leader is “ready” to send a high-level delegation “for talks with a Ukrainian delegation” to Minsk, the capital of Belarus, which has hosted peace talks and agreements in the past.
Russian embassy Dublin 01 492 2048
End game would be reinstating Viktor Yanukovych as president as Ukraine whose in exile in Russia. However will the Ukraine army be loyal to him? So of course he will request Russian leave Russian soldiers to police/enforce the peace.
Ultimately it's going to end up with a Ukraine resistance supplied with western arms vs a Russian backed puppet government.
Turkey shot down a Russian plane and the Russia sold them an expensive missile sustem. A plane venturing into the wrong airspace - or even 10, all shot down - isn't going to trigger WW3.
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