But sure I thought Trump was a Russian agent looking to destabilise NATO?
Puts things into perspective as to how the war effort is going, not great unfortunately if theyre relying on civilians to fight for them. Same goes for the announcement that males 18-60 are banned from leaving the country - drastic move that shows Ukrainian defence is not doing so well.
Why would a country with 6,000 nuclear warheads and modern delivery systems require a big dirty bomb?
Chernobyl is on the shortest route from Belarus to Kiev.
Ukraine government asking citizens to prepare petrol bombs to fight the Russians…. Puts things in perspective that people were freaking out here over mask wearing/ limits of people at a table in the pub.
Yeah, any posts suggesting 'NATO should shoot down their planes', 'put boots on the ground' or 'take out Putin' are completely divorced from this fundamental reality; there will not be NATO troops directly facing off against Russian troops in Ukraine.
That is the unfortunate reality. The Ukrainians know this as much as the Russians do. All the West can do is embargo Russia back to the economic stone age, provide as much aid (military and non-military) to Ukraine as possible and work to strengthen the coalition of decent nations against this evil.
Are you in the correct tread?
This is the problem with western thinking in the face of Putins aggression. "War crimes" as we call them in the west, is just war to the Russians. Russian logic is - "will it help us win? Then we'll do it."
Edit - I am not advocating war crimes, just showing the difference in west vs Russian thinking
Imagine a few years ago having so much pro Russian support being voiced by American politicians and media commentators. Well done agent Trump, he couldn't have done a better job for Putin. Managed to undermine their democratic system by claiming elections are rigged and cosying up to dictators like Putin and Kim while undermining NATO and falling out with western leaders.
"But no one has done more to hype Russia—and, by extension, been more indifferent to the people of Ukraine—than Fox News’s biggest star, Tucker Carlson. He has suggested that the invasion was the result of a mere “border dispute.” He has repeatedly echoed the Kremlin’s own talking points on the war, suggesting that the real issue was that Democrats don’t want Russia to succeed. “Their one and only goal is to hold back the development of Russia,” Carlson said on Monday, while also suggesting that Ukraine was effectively a client state: “a colony with a puppet regime.”
Carlson further characterized Ukrainians as warmongers, desperate to fulfill a blood feud with Putin that will jeopardize American lives—a particularly spurious claim given that Russia has unambiguously been the aggressor and is currently bombing sites all over the country. All of these, as Insider pointed out earlier this week, are the exact same points Moscow is using to sell the invasion as a necessity—indeed, Carlson’s segments have already shown up in Russian propaganda.
Carlson really hit his stride on Tuesday, during one of his a typically stern-faced monologues. “It may be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious, what is this really about?” he asked, rhetorically. “Why do I hate Putin so much?” he continued. “Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him?” To Carlson’s thinking, Putin’s cruelties can be dismissed as other people’s problems—or even assets: If Putin is against civil rights, social justice, and democracy, that makes him, broadly speaking, an ally."
The reference by Black Noel was to NATO's alleged actions. Are you saying that Poland, Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania were bribed into joining NATO? Total rubbish.
Raul Duke III: are you implying that NATO or somw other Western governments have supported the rise of Trumpism in the US? This must win some sort of Nobel prize for fiction.
Putin may be a psychopath, but the Russians aren't the cartoon demons that the west used to portray them as during the cold war.
Chernobyl was identified as a key asset because it's "in the way". It's near one of the key routes from Belarus to Kyiv, and the Russians will want to avoid any serious fighting from taking place near it in case the power plant is struck. So secure it, and move past it as soon as possible to keep any fighting away from it.
Nobody is stupid enough to fvck around with it.
seen the videos there, is it classed as a war crime to use the uniform of your enemy to carry out attacks?
I'm pretty amazed that people think NATO/US will engage the Russians over the Ukraine. They will sanction them to the stone age but they'll be allowed take Ukraine, wether they can hold it or not. Now if Putin crosses the NATO redline then that's another story but Putin isn't stupid enough to do that.
People just fail to understand the gravity of the US in conflict with Russia.
I can not believe this is real. As a Russian, I am ashamed of what is happening, and I ask the forgiveness of the Ukrainians for my inability to stop this terrible war. How cynical to talk about your own safety when you yourself ignore the safety of millions of people. I have never supported the current Russian government, nor have I ever voted for Vladimir Putin. Nevertheless, I am infinitely ashamed.
The way to end this is to get the Russian people to turn on Putin, how the west can so that ? Destroy their economy ? Propaganda ? Any other ideas ?
Probably rocket artillery, grads or something siimilar
Not going to share it, but there is footage doing the rounds of a Russian tank running over a civilian vehicle in Ukraine. The vehicle was in motion at the time. We'll probably never know the details, but it looks like a war crime to me.
Lad broadcasting live on Sky News in kharkiv and you could hear the thundering in the background. Would this be bombs hitting buildings or is it the sound of a missile rocketing through the air?
They won't do that, it would be very bad news for Putins puppet in Belarus. Its a main route to Kyiv from Belarus, and a good staging area as its not likely to be attacked with arty etc by the Ukrainian army
'The head of the Russian Space Agency, Roscosmos, has tweeted about deorbiting the International Space Station over the US or Europe in response to the sanctions.'
That sounds like it should be the name of the Roscommon Space Agency.
It's depressing. Nothing left now only apologise to the people of Ukraine and do our best to look after their fleeing people.
We've failed them.
I see Russia have seized control of the Chernobyl plant in the Ukraine - probably re ignite it to kill more people in Europe with Nuclear Radiation !
Russian saboteurs eliminated in kiev.
Doesn't even take bags of money unfortunately.
Stir up divisions online and watch societal unity crumble. Easy and cheap. Look at what they've done to the GOP base in the US - it's unrecognisable from the days of say, Reagan.
I read an article a few days outlining how Putin has been preparing for these sanctions since 2014
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60480904
no doubt he envisaged the sanctions imposed
They do rock up with bags of money to destabilise countries, bribe politicians and swing elections with promises. They've been doing it for decades.
I'm very aware of how a total war would end the world, but we can't roll over and show Putin our belly. Russia has always kept pushing the knife in until they meet resistance
What was the podcast ?
Excuses, excuses.
It's that Germany depends on cheap Russian resources, and that's worth more than Ukrainian lives.
Putin can count on Berlin.
We've been lying down in the face of evil for at least a good 20 years tbh, so we're quite good at it. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Hong Kong, Uighurs, Amazon deforestation, and countless others by a lot of different countries. We'll stay lying down cos it suits us at this stage.
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