Food for thought alright
There are many solutions to tackle the SUV problem, which will need bold action from policymakers. These solutions – taxation, education and exclusion – have parallels with the successful campaign against cigarette smoking.
I shoulda, was half-listening, that comment stuck out as I never considered it, and went looking for the thread
Its clear most Irish people have no idea what an SUV actually is.
You've fallen hook line and sinker for the marketing departments of verious manufacturers. Take a vw golf, keep the engine, running gear, suspension and chassis, stick on a tall body, call it an SUV and watch the money roll in. A ford ranger does not share such things with a focus for instance.
I see it in work when charging the leaf, parked next to other cars marketed as SUVs, EV6 etc. Barely a difference in height/ground clearance. Yet my old range rover towers over tiguans, tuscans etc.
Sorry I thought you were being ironic here. Never owned an SUV and have pulled up onto many a footpath without an issue even with 16'' wheels. Its all about the angle of accent.
Problem with people calling for SUVs to be banned is that there is very little clarity about what class of vehicles are to be included. Was driving behind a pristine 232 Ford Ranger Raptor with the 3L petrol burbling away recently. Self employed owner using it to drop kids to school. Must say a lovely sounding machine but wondering would such a vehicle fall within the SUV ban or is it only when such vehicles are driven by private owners are they considered inappropriate
You could at least give credit to the source of that quote, Lunchtime live on Newstalk today.
It's a sports utility vehicle. There are two main types large and small/compact, they will generally have better ground clearance than a car with some off road capability with decent towing capacity ( generally 2T+ for the small ones.
The RAV and Kuga have this across there range although they too are changing towards being Crossovers. Crossovers are similar to compact SUV's but have poor towing capacity, and have little off road ability.
Large SUV such as the LC, BMW X5 etc are different beasts completely well capable of parking on an 9'' high kerb
The latest landrover defender 110 and 130 is my dream car currently. Who cares about emissions.
They are all "crossovers" - but everyone and their mother refers to crossovers as SUVs so its just pedantry to claim they arent.
You know well what is meant.
So what is an SUV?
The Quasqai is not an SUV neither is the modern Tuscon or the Sportage.
A qashqui is classed as an SUV and ruled unopposed the urban jungle for a number of years until overthrown by the Tuscon / Sportage. For 12 points - what is an SUV?
Footpaths are go every high nowadays you need a really big SUV to park on them. It risky pulling onto them with an Quasqui or similar
Back in the day, folk wore a gold chain or a bracelet. Now they have a SUV that are the status symbol
Totally off topic.
Reminds me that my father learned to drive on a Model T.
Perhaps if try you really hard you can find some sexism or fat-shaming in my post?
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There has been a big sheikh up in the luxury car market.
Ferrari
Porsche
Rolls Royce.
Ageism and racism in the same sentence, impressive.
So basically we should all get rid of our Range Rovers and drive Ferraris, Porsche or Rolls Royce?
The Range Rover has gone from looking like something the Queen would drive to looking like something 50 Cent would drive.
However it's rubbish comparing Irish crossovers to American gas guzzling SUV's
I would disagree. Firstly it isn't "Irish crossovers" as they would be models for the European market rather than Ireland.
However, my issue is that the motor manufacturers are setting the trend and people buy what is on sale. By having crossovers, it is normalising the trend for large dominating vehicles. If we had less crossovers, would there be as many American-style SUVs sold here? I really don't think so. The crossovers aren't directly comparable to the gas guzzling SUVs but how much larger are they when compared to average SUV vehicle from 20 or 30 years ago?
It's fairly easy to get rough estimates. 3 meters is only slightly less than 10'. 13' is slight more than 4 meters. 2 meters is 6'7'' approx. 2.5 cm is an inch and 30 cm is a foot.
5 Meters is 16' 5'' and 6 meters is 19' 8''. Most phone calculators can do conversion calculations as well.
Ooooooh, the want is big on that, I'd love one!
they're american trucks so aren't measured in metric...
Not many people understand feet and inches anymore 😂
I think that requires a little more specificity. An F150 regular cab with a 6.5' bed is about 17.5' long. Give the F150 a four-door crew cab and a 6.5' bed, and you're now about 20 feet long. A standard (eg no wildcat trim) Ranger is always 5.8m (17.5') long, regardless of cab configuration, the 4-door variant has a 5'3" bed.
However, yes, they're not too far from the big American SUVs. A Chevy Suburban is 18'10", Ford Expedition is 17.5', together with the short-length Escalade or the Lincoln Navigator, the Escalade ESV is 18'11" long. For comparison, the Merc GLS is 17'1", Cayenne is 16'2".
This is one of the responses
That’s before you go lifting them, like this US import F150
An American SUV https://twitter.com/ajlatrace/status/1495124630868213764?s=21
We aren’t talking about the same thing here at all, yet the rhetoric about them is coming from the US discussion.
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