Would be an interesting one, to the best of my knowledge they don't operate in any other Irish airport but have had planes painted in Shannon.
Ryanair main operations in Shannon are Eastern Europe, bucket and spade plus UK routes now, maybe there is an opportunity to service some cities in Western Europe.
I actually agree.
Alot of the pharma companies European headquarters are in Benelux countries too. I know no route has been a pain in the ass for them when site visits are arranged.
I don't know for sure but my guess is they are pursuing both (there was what looked like a KLM trial flight a few months ago) but Paris is working out because the route has more recent history and there is a French dignatory in mid West.
Ireland to France tourism and Rugby tourism would be the reasons Id hope it could work.
Transavia France to Orly one of the contenders apparently
One of the issues with the Air France service at the time was timing.
It arrived early afternoon from Paris.
Not very useful for connections.
Don't get the huge push for Paris flight. AF dropped it like a hot potato the second EI reinstated LHR back in 2008. They didn't even try and compete, from memory, the flight was gone within a week or two of the LHR flights restarting. And they were only using a small unit (I think a cityjet Bae)?
For one thing, if it's connection to CDG, then anyone with experience flying will run a mile - been there twice and both times it was total chaos, I avoid CDG at all costs now, as do many other business flyers I know.
Personally, I'd see a lot more value in an AMS link, as many or more connections than CDG plus lots of tourism both ways (maybe I'm wrong but I see a lot more Dutch people visiting Ireland than French)?
France seems to have been a huge part of social media from Shannon Group for the last month or so. Lets hope this is what they've been aiming towards.
Hildegarde Naughton is leaving Paris after a meeting with transport ministers. Announcements on transport due later in the week.
Hopefully SNN is included if it’s a route announcement.
Only promising element i could see was bunratty
I can’t see it happening either. The bus would be much quicker. I’m not sure where would be suitable to even add a rail link around the airport.
Anyone mentioning a rail link to Shannon is completely deluded, it will never happen.
But I'm sure the usual politicians will call for it again soon to appeal to the morons who support them.
A shuttle bus to a train that would take longer than just taking the bus directly to Limerick or Ennis is kind of pointless really.
As an add on Irish Rail will always point to local authority objectives
This is the Clare County Development Plan for the Shannon region published last month.
https://clarecdp2023-2029.clarecoco.ie/stage2-draft/display/volume-3b-shannon-municipal-district-settlement-plans-45167.pdf
What I can take from it...
For me this means any rail link is not imminent.
The shuttle bus seems a mad idea from Sixmilebridge, but it goes through bunratty so hey, it might be good.
Good to see Cratloe rail station mentioned, I'd hope this will be achieved.
I've never looked into it in any serious way , I know people have talked about using the quays road to water treatment plant for something like this.
As above my guess is this isn't a runner.
I'd like to see Moyross , Cratloe and Crusheen developed though. Making existing line a dual track in parts would be a significant step forward. #
If Cratloe was done, that would probably be as good as it gets for the airport and rail
Have a look at google maps and you'll struggle to find a route through Shannon town or Industrial Estate that would have a train arriving at the terminal side or the airport.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Shannon is too small for an airport rail connection and is more than served by 38 buses a day between the 343 and 51 routes and a dual carriageway link to Limerick, Ennis and Galway.
I read that as a shuttle link (a bus)
A rail link would be great but I'll believe it when there is a station in Moyross and Cratloe. Both capital projects that would happen first.
Does anyone know situation with the land by the way, is that relatively clear cut?
There is zero chance that any proposed link would be open in that time frame. It would be unlikely to even be through planning.
The article says this will benefit Ryder Cup tourists....so will be up and running in just 4 years??
I didn't say it would work, I just listed the rumours.
Fwiw, every state owned airport has a budget thst can be associated with attracting routes. I'd guess that would be a big part.
Thinking further there are quite alot of middle east routes from Dublin, maybe being the only ME carrier serving the west coast of Ireland would be attractive. Honestly it feels like a few levels up but one that would be strategically useful.
Us troops and Saudia though, the left would have a field day
@Tiernster7. TD's have mentioned Saudia…
what would be the attraction for Shannon rather than Dublin?
Booked a holiday for Apr out of shannon, can't wait for that airport pint again!
SNN YYZ is not unrealistic I’d say. SNN spoke to ClareFM in recent months and mentioned the route. They were hopeful for its return in 2023 or 2024. AC Boeing Max are well back in the air now.
@JCX BXC noone was looking for these immediately more of a long term ambition. However both paris and toronto were due to be in service summer 2020. I know plenty booked on the Paris service before covid hit. Only last week on rte radio there was an interview with a travel agent who said midterm was v busy and some routes were having their busiest midterm on some routes. One destination she said was Paris with families going to Euro Disney for midterm.So both routes are not unrealistic in the next year or too. Plus thing of all the irish in the likes of canada who were seperated from family and friends for 2 years. There would be pent up demand so its not an airy fairy idea. The airport would have had a lot of the ground work done with air canada for the 2020 seasion so wouldnt be the maddeas idea to express hope for next year
Im assuming one has down time in SNN incase they need maintenance or to position to DUB for it and swap aircraft. Although it may be easier to swap a/c in LHR since two will be on the ground from SNN/DUB at the same time there in the morning.
DUB/SNN - LHR seem to be the only UK/EU routes the NEO are doing so far this summer. Things could change for DUB though.
Anyone insight to the 321neo utilization? After march 27th for 6 days a week both aircraft will be landing after the Eastbound transatlantic around 6am. 1 will be doing the LHR morning route. What will the other one be doing? Then both are flying West bound at 12.50 and 13.30 to JFK and BOS.
Toronto, Paris, Lisbon, DUBAI?
Lads, the airport is just recovering from a 2 year long near halt in international travel, we're not going to start landing these amazing routes to brilliant locations.
The airport was onto good routes before COVID hit, as mentioned here the BCN and CDG routes with EI were great, however in a climate where you need constant injections to be able to travel without spending massive amounts on tests, we need to be realistic about our routes here.
Airlines like Ryanair are the ones to capitalise on this, establish new route patterns, increase market share and establish dominence. I cannot see 'legacy' airlines riddled with massive debt, a senior workforce and single city bases making any massive expansion plans here.
Slow and steady will be the way forward here, it's arguable that air travel may take years to return to old levels. Business traffic may never return to previous levels.
Also on the park4less, keep in mind the airport is massively down on previous parking revenues, can't see why they'd be jumping to return a low cost option.
They should open it up soon. The summer schedule will Be starting and JFK, BOS & EWR resuming in the next few weeks.
Anyone know why Park4less is still closed?
I booked a long weekend in the UK and the parking is double the price of the airfare. Madness.
I agree what ryanair has offered is reasonable. Its up to locals to support and the airport to promote in the hope that they may increase frequency on them over time.
Up to the airport now to do the hard sell to attract other airlines for potential new routes
I think SNN has got a good amount so far from FR. It’s got better destinations from them now than before the pandemic.
A lot of FR flights from ORK are to the UK.
Yip, not sure if Hidden Assets and Smother are associated but there is plenty of activity that might generate something for the airport. Limerick city has a lot more music this summer, the pro am in Adare , throw in the Ryder cup too.
I feel like what Ryanair have offered Shannon is pretty reasonable. Its up to Shannon to try generate activity to bring it closer to what Cork has.
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