Have the Shinners released any statement on the invasion of the Ukraine?
Pearse Doherty was on the radio this morning very clearly asserting his support for the integrity of Ukraine.
I havnt seen a statement from any party on their website regarding the invasion
They support the peacekeeping efforts.
That can be read many ways depending on whether your are in Russia or the Ukraine, a bit like their different policies, North and South.
So you never heard Pearse saying what Russia was doing was wrong. Im shocked i tell you, shocked
I am sure he'll be correct later by the boys in Belfast if he got any of it wrong.
Or maybe they can see, as I do, that there are two of them at it. Putin and the NATO alliance, neither showering themselves in glory.
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Well said.
Hopefully they will get some educated dude to tidy up the glaring error on the memorial.
You can’t trust these folk with anything.
Who signed off on the script, the guy who set up the bomb?
You were probably just as "depressed" at the proposed black & tan commemoration they had to abandon?
Bombs are funny now? Tell that to the people in Warrington or the locals in McGurk’s Bar.
You're the one complaining. What was it, we weren't mature enough to accept the black and tan commemoration? I find rememberance day to be bad taste but you have to let people remember who they like. After all it wasn't a state official forced commemoration.
So you're suggesting, despite what others have been saying in here, things would be business as usual under a Sinn Fein led government with multi nationals etc, in the business world?
I thought you were actually pro FG, but now it appears you're telling people that despite the scare mongering, it would be pretty much as is under them.
I’m just relaying what Pearse D was telling people at the meeting I was at. Either he was lying in that meeting, or SF have been lying in their public utterances in general, as the message he was trying to give was completely at odds with the messages SF have been pushing to the broader electorate.
I’m tied to no party - at the moment I see FG as best representing my interests so I’ll likely give them my preferences before anyone else, but if I think my best interests are served by a different party then I wouldn’t hesitate to change that. Economic stability is at the forefront of where I see my interests at the moment so that’s what I put most weight on.
IMO SF are such cynical populists that they couldn’t be trusted to follow any single position consistently - much like Bertie/era FF (who they are trying to ape at every opportunity) they’d quite happily knowingly sell the country down the river if they thought it would result in short-term electoral gain
The Irish Defence Forces are the only legitimate people who can call themselves "'Óglaigh na hÉireann"
These nutjobs who lay claim that they were the legitimate soldiers of the state are nutjobs akin to ISIS.
SF are knee deep in this type of thinking and people have a right to call them out for it.
Don't forget his objection to people wearing a poppy, so much so they should be not allowed to wear a poppy at all.
So, SF/PIRA commemorations "They are grand, just part and parcel of life in NI"
The Poppy "One should not be allowed to wear it!"
Orange marches "Should only be allowed march where I tell them!"
The silence from SF on this topic is very noticeable.
SF will always jump on an anti-west, anti-NATO, anti-US bandwagon.
SF are well known to cosy up to authoritarian regimes the world over, from Russia, Cuba and Venezuela. Glad people are looking into this a bit more.
So where does it say Óglaigh na hÉireann in the tweet? The word they used means 'volunteer', particularly a young person.
I agree by the way, it was wrong that they called themselves that, but then the people they were fighting for were abandoned without protection from what was to them, a brutal foreign oppressor and a bigoted sectarian state. I can forgive them for it TBH.
They should start with Martin McGuinness.
Pivot after getting caught out. Carry on.
Two lies in that post.
I never said either. Scroll back, you will see where I said I think there should be a moratorium on these kind of things.
Problem you have Mark, is you only want one side to stop. There is offensive hurtful stuff all over the north if you took the blinkers off.
I see another article on the journal about SFs fury at the 6000 number we all know about.
They are like a dog with a bone, something has rattled them.
Now coming with the what about FF angle.
When you are saying FF did the same as we did yet claiming you are right and they are wrong you know your pissing against the wind.
Just own it and move on.
Oh not at all.
All of those who died at Clonoe have 'Óglaigh na hÉireann' on their gravestone.
http://tnga.ie/portfolio-items/vol-peter-clancy/
In fact, I think almost every PIRA member has it on their gravestone.
It will put SF in the government in a very tricky position.
How can a SF minister of defence or Taoiseach who is the head of the Irish government with a legitimate Irish Defence Forces and army and at the same time stand up and give a thumbs up to a terrorist organisation who claim to call itself the real 'Óglaigh na hÉireann'? You can only have one.
I can see this blowing up in their faces in due course.
Ah but you did.
https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/105122650#Comment_105122650
If I tell them I find it offensive and they continue to wear it, they are forcing it on me.
Do you agree with commemorations Francie?
And as I said before you pivotted away to something else it is a sign of progress if they have dropped using the Óglaigh na hÉireann.
I am against anyone using flags, poppies, lilies, parades, commemorations etc to taunt or intimidate. I have zero issue with people doing the above if it is respectful and not done to taunt. People have to be allowed to remember and commemorate. I am not looking to set up an authoritarian state with a single narrative, like some.
Again, if they are respectful, zero issues.
Eh Pearse Doherty was on newstalk at 8.15am this morning saying what Russia was doing was wrong.
Your mate Blanch already asked this earlier, do keep up
You should prob watch/listen/read the news/political shows before commenting
So why didnt you want people to wear a poppy?
People who taunt by wearing it, people who insist on you wearing it, people who attack others for not wearing it are wrong. The poppy to some is as offensive as an IRA memorial is to some, because the soldiers it commemorates terrorised and killed here.
And NO I am not getting into a debate nor want to know what you think it represents.
People who taunt by wearing it
Who taunts people by wearing it. Can you give me an example?
Seems like you WANT to be offended by a poppy, thus can then use the excuse of forcing people to remove it.