Are we really that desperate for people to prop up the pension pyramid scheme?
My "arguments" have been posted many times already in this thread.
At this stage there is little more to be argued as the scheme is now up and running.
Besides, arguing against the some of the nonsense posted as opposing views would serve no purpose as they are the equivalent of "dey tok or jobz".
You don’t have an argument. You have an extremist take on illegal immigration that has been shown to be nonsense repeatedly.
What a surprise that you’ve now resorted to ‘they took our jobs’. Have you grown tired of the ‘food’ narrative? Predictable, if nothing else.
By that logic the government has an extremist opinion too seeing as they are running the scheme
Has anybody in government stated that illegal immigration is desirable and more is to be welcomed? Nope. That was all you. Own your extremist position. Be out and and proud about your extremism.
Did I say that?
Haven't dropped into this thread for a while and I see the same old arguments from the pro diversity side. "Diversity is faaaabulous darling", throw in charity, food, 'the Irish were immigrants y'know" and "you're a bigot and racist" for even questioning the politic and that pretty much sums their argument up. It's less an argument than an exoticism fetish as this 'diversity' isn't nearly so much in play if the migration is pale of face(which has been the vast majority of migration into Ireland). Legal or illegal migration, it matters not.
That we expect more from the Irish political class and all too often our parish pump electorate is the joke. Coveney and McEntee got in on daddy's "he fixed the rooooads!" sympathy ticket after same died by their own hand, in the case of Coveney's after money was found "resting" in his Ansbacher account that he swore didn't exist. And still Coveney Jr got elected as the golden haired boy from Cork. FF and FG have dodgy dealings and cute whorey going back to the egg and we still keep voting these buggers in. We've only ourselves to blame really.
"exoticism fetish" or paraphelia
Great to see they clarified the issue for Afghan refugees and extended the time frame for that particular programme
RTE news : Deadline extension for residence programme for Afghans
If we had diversity there'd be a loyalist parade down O'Connell St in Dublin every July.
Europe-wide, the hospitality industry is looking outside the EU for staff.
Restaurants Association of Ireland CEO Adrian Cummins says that there has been a "mass exodus" from the hospitality sector right across the European Union and that employers are now looking beyond the EU's borders for workers.
That means visas and work permits, a process that Mr Cummins describes as slow and cumbersome. He says it can take months for workers to come through the system and he is calling for a 'one stop shop' for visas and work permits in order to simplify the process.
Industry with crap pay and conditions in struggle to get staff shocker.
Indeed, as eluded to in the article, it's going to be a positive influence in driving wages upwards though a decent % of places will likely not survive regardless
So it will be straight off the plane to the Holiday Inn for some.https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/holiday-inn-at-dublin-airport-shuts-after-seven-months-to-become-asylum-centre-1.4808471
Maybe we can put them to work in the hospitality sector right away?
What a wonderful first experience for tourists..
No.
But they implement policies that encourages illegal immigration.
And when it happens, they don't take enough action against it.
Thread on this seems to have just vanished. Not locked, no warnings, just vanished. Welcome to Boards 2022.
Strange, I've been looking for it. I can't even find the help desk in the layout to query it?
You'd start to think that the government are trying to make things blow up in their faces. 421 beds even if at most it'd ever only have 100-200 people stuck as close as possible to the city while still in the middle of nowhere off the M50.
There'll be no hiding any trouble there or originating from there, and there's no way there won't be trouble.
During the planning process the locals must have been assured this was going to be a hotel. A reasonable expectation.
Open 7 months and now it's to be an "asylum center" (i'm not sure that's adequate description).
Surely locals would be rightly angry at this?
Also I don't see a word about this on RTE.
This is actually appalling. People have no say on any of this in their own communities. It's done to them without any consultation and they are told in the media (not the national broadcaster of course).
This has been happening all over the country for years. Locals are never informed because the politicians know what the reaction will be. Look at what happened in Galway and Macroom in Cork. As numbers continue to go through the roof this will happen more and more.
welcome to Ireland in 2022, where planning laws are subverted, ahhh but it’s to help migrants so that’s grand…
Why would they be angry?
Because they were told this would be a hotel.
Now it's to be an "asylum center", just like that. After 7 months.
They've been conned. Simple as that.
At least the houses in the nearest estates aren't as isolated as those houses right by the site, they'll be looking like all those house surrounding halting sites in a short while; tall barbed wire fencing surrounding the property.
The other hotel beside it is going to get hit hard.
but what difference does it make? Why would they be angry?
This is not complicated. This went through the planning process as a 10 storey HOTEL.
That's what people in the area were led to believe.
Now imagine in that planning process they were told this is actually going to be a 10 storey "asylum center".
We all know why this stuff is done the way it is. The local reaction would have put an end to that.
Instead now it's being forced on them with no consultation or no say.
Also let's drop this ridiculous language - "asylum center". A 10 storey 421 bed "slum" is the reality, everyone knows it.
And it could get even worse because there is a huge hotel beside it.
That won't be a hotel for long.
It will be one massive camp.
Appalling. No one consulted.
He's not legitimately asking.
"It said 3,300 new arrivals have come to Ireland since October, putting pressure on the National Reception Centre (NRC) in Balseskin, near Finglas in north Dublin. IPAS already has six accommodation deals with hotels in Dublin. It recently ran a tender, which it estimated was worth €50 million, for a further panel of accommodation providers."
Incredible, definitely a good business to be in. Guaranteed profitability. 3,300 "arrivals" in under 5 months... and another €50 million now just been made available....Ching-ching for all those involved I suppose...
At an arrival rate of 150-200 "asylum seekers" every week, thats a new hotel needed every fortnight.
I like the way this term ‘undocumented’ has seemed to replace the word ‘illegal’….in the common parlance of people not adhering to the rules.
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